by JimmyPage 37 Replies latest jw friends
I don't understand why you're posting on a topic asking for more information on something you clearly don't understand and have no interest in learning. If there's a topic about knitting, you won't see me posting something about my total lack of knowledge of the subject.
I understand evolution.
The topic was what are the best books you have ever read about evolution.
And I responded with the best books I have read.
then after that I responded to Daves question slightly off topic.
Thanks once again for your reply, Jaguarbass. I can see where you are coming from, and I respect that. I apologise for getting this thread off topic.
Dave
"There is a book entitled - You can take an Evolutionist to evidence but you can't make him think. Excellent book"
LOL!!!!
I've just found out who wrote that book! Ray Comfort
AKA Banana man!
My friend, you have been super duped!
I understand evolution
Comments like "to say that whales turn into cows or cows turn
into whales in my estimation is also a con" makes me suspect
that perhaps you don't.
I could argue pro evolution....
Ok, I guess I should give you the benifit of the doubt here.
What do you feel is the most compelling argument FOR evolution?
Even if you have an admitted bias towards creation of some sort
(which I appreceate the honesty in admiting this, BTW), if you are
truly "on the fence" about evolution, there must be some aspect
of evolutionary theory you find compelling.
What are you favorite pro-evolution books you have read?
I ask becuase the "pro" books you mentioned, only "Origin"
was from a scientfic perspective, and I found "Origin" to be
rather dense reading. So, if you understand evolution enough
to argue for it after reading just those books, props to you.
However, I assume those are not the only popular-science
type evolution books you have read, seeing as we have
established that you are a prolific reader.
Have you read much Dawkins?
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I read 5 hours a day 5 days a week. I read all kinds of stuff I have read darwin. I have read Dawkins.
I have a wall of books there are many books that say cows turned into whales.
If you want to be technical, I doubt it was actually a cow.
And I doubt it was actually a whale.
That may not be your favorite theory but its out there. I have read it more than once.
What theory I have found the most evidence for is Zechariah Sitchins 12 planet.
I have read independent history, The history of Civiliazation by Will Durant written in 1935
30 years before Sitchin started writing that supports his theory.
In Egypt the paroh lived in the temple.
The Pharoh was appointed by the God.
The God was a human who also lived in the temple.
That is Egyptian history. The God was an asstronaut from Nibiru.
You owe it to yourself to read Slave species of God or the 12th planet.
The powers that be dont want man to know the truth.
If man knew the truth they could not be controlled.
Religion is all about controll
Sitchin believes in evolution, he just believes there is lots of evidence
saying that on earth evolution was assisted and modified by men from Nibiru.
I can tell you there is disinformation against sitchin and if you want to know the truth
you need to research it and weigh the evidence.
If you dont your just being a good consumer believing what they feed you. Tellinger and Sitchin did the
work its there if you want to read it.
Understanding and believing involves reading there books, reading the bible the epic of gilgamish
and world history.
I have a wall of books there are many books that say cows turned into whales.
If you want to be technical, I doubt it was actually a cow.
And I doubt it was actually a whale.
Here is the "cow":
And here is the "whale":
That may not be your favorite theory but its out there.
Actually, it is one of my favorites. It is one of the best supported lineages
in evolutionary theory, with numerous transitional fossils. The strength of
the fossil series, along with strong evidence from slowly migrating features
(ear organs) and vestigial features (i.e., whales with small useless legs)
is one the early parts of my studies that started to convince me of the
validity of the theory.
I have read it more than once.
I believe you, but so long as you continue to claim that modern scientists
claim that a cow-like something turned into a whale-like something, I have
to question either the quality (or recentness) of the work you have read on
the subject, or your understanding of it, or your recollection of it.
I highly recommend this short video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cn0kf8mhS4
(Keep in mind that every time the animal in this video "changes", it represents
an actual fossil animal that has been found, all in the same geographic area, in the correct chronological order in the strata.)
If you can watch that animation, which is reasonably accurate depiction of the current
scientific model of land-mammal-to-whale evolution, and still tell me that it is a video
showing "cows turning into whales", then this conversation has hit a murky dead end,
because we seem to be talking in different languages.
For a slightly more indepth video on the subject, I recomend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9a-lFn4hqY
Cheers, and thanks for having the patience to keep this discussion going as long as
it has. I feel I have a somewhat better understanding of where you are coming from,
and I appreciate you sharing it with us.
:)
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The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin.
Cosmos by Carl Sagan. Not a book on biological evolution per se but a "big picture" book that shows how even the "inanimate" universe evolves including stars and how they create the elements that are necessary for life to spontaneously evolve.
Yea, I was thinking of how to summarize Cosmos and this about does it. I like his persepective and talent for posing questions that get the reader thinking. Good book, well written. RIP Carl.
