Jacksons private Memorial was JW ceremony

by purplesofa 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31838593

    from the article

    Jehovah’s Witness ceremony
    Fossett, who is not a Jehovah’s Witness, describes the service as “spoken in a way that their belief is that (God) is going to be back on this earth.” Wendell Hawkins “addressed guests and said he was glad that (Michael’s) life was connected with Jehovah.” During the service, John 3:16 was read, the Biblical passage that speaks to God so loving the world that he gave his only son, and Ecclesiastes 9:5, which refers to the living knowing they will die, but the dead being conscious of nothing.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I managed to avoid the world of television for the day of the public spectacle, but I can see a private JW memorial contrasting a public free-for-all with Reverends coming out of the woods to connect themselves with a popular icon.

    That way, there is something for everyone. "What the public saw, was for Hollywood," JW family can say. "What the JW family saw, that was for them," non-JW family can say.

    JW's always liked to have a JW-connection to deaths in the family. That way, they can confirm their JW teachings that the person died before the judgment of Armaggedon and will get a resurrection.

  • undercover
    undercover

    It may have been done in the JW style, but I doubt seriously that it was a sanctioned JW funeral.

    From the same article

    “He looked like himself. He looked like he just was laying there sleeping,”

    My first thought after reading that; Hell, he ain't looked like himself in a couple of decades.

  • kitten whiskers
    kitten whiskers

    My grandfather also had a funeral given by a ministerial servant (a dear friend of ours at the time). My grandfather was not ever, nor did he like, the witnesses. But someone had to give a funeral talk!

    We made it all about my grandpa...it was the best funeral many people said they had ever been to. The touch on religion was very light, just a couple of scriptures, and the talk was given at a funeral home.

    Those that wonder how Michael could have had a witness funeral when he obviously had left the religion and was not practicing, will want to know. This is why I share about my grandfather. As long as the funeral is not in a kingdom hall, a ministerial servant or elder can give a funeral talk. At least this is what I have seen, it may vary congregation to congregation. It just usually boils down to a preaching session, where they can count field service time! I am not sure however, if a disfellowshipped person can have such a talk at their funeral. I think so...but I am not positive. Loyal JW's however of the rank and file, would not be present at a funeral for a disfellowshipped person as attending the funeral would be showing you are giving honor to the deceased. It doesn't matter if the rest of the grieving are your close friends in the congregation, a loyal jw would not attend.

    Thank you for sharing Purps...many people were curious. This was done no doubt for his mother. I am curious to know if these were his wishes or if it is a case of just pleasing her. Every JW wants to believe that Jehovah will resurrect their beloved now that they have died and paid sin's wages.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    It may have been done in the JW style, but I doubt seriously that it was a sanctioned JW funeral.

    About 70 relatives gathered at Forest Lawn, where Jackson’s cousin Wendell Hawkins conducted a Jehovah’s Witness service, according to Fossett and another cousin, Myron Hawkins, who is Wendell Hawkins’ brother.

    I guess it's a bit easier to have the Memorial when it's a family member doing the service.

    purps

  • blondie
    blondie

    *** km 3/97 p. 7 Question Box ***

    What if the deceased was disfellowshipped?The congregation would generally not be involved. The Kingdom Hall would not be used. If the person had been giving evidence of repentance and manifesting a desire to be reinstated, a brother’s conscience might allow him to give a Bible talk at the funeral home or graveside, to give a witness to unbelievers and to comfort the relatives. Before making this decision, however, it would be wise for the brother to consult with the body of elders and give consideration to what they may recommend. In situations where it would not be wise for that brother to be involved, it may be appropriate for a brother who is a member of the deceased person’s family to give a talk to console the relatives.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    Hey Blondie, thanks for that info!!!! I did not know that.

    thanks,

    purps

  • babygirl75
    babygirl75

    Thanks for the info Blondie...that helps clear up my questions! I think the family may have bent to Katherine, to let her have the private funeral they way she saw fit. I'm sure the family as a whole was not in aggreance with it. Now it looks as if they are arguing over where to have him buried! He is currently in Gordy's crypt for now until they can decide on Neverland (Jermaine & Joe want this to make a museum and bring in more income) or somewhere more respectful (Katherine and the rest of the family want).

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    Look let's be honest here. I live in L.A. and although the official line is that MJ is df'd, there is no shortage of JW's who would gladly stick their head up any one of the Jackson's bungholes. There are plenty of elders who would have loved to give the talk.

  • undercover
    undercover

    Who are they trying to kid anyway?

    Michael Jackson was not a JW. Why was his JW connected family insistent on JWing up everything?

    Everybody talks about the father being such an ass...I'm beginning to think that the mom was such a zealot, she drove em all nuts.

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