Knowing (2009)

by Yizuman 27 Replies latest social entertainment

  • RR
    RR
    Didn't like the ending at all way too biblical and preachy.

    You mean the part about being taken away by space aliens? ... yeah I can see the Biblical reference

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    No I mean the reference that it was like an ark (2 kids, 2 rabbits 2 deer), and they were the chosen ones and were left on a planet with a huge tree (tree of life) also the faint wings on the aliens (angels) - like I said very bibical.

    You could also regard Cage as the prodigal son returning to make peace with his father.

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    There were memorable scenes in the movie, but some things didn't make sense - like why did the aliens come 50 years early, just to have the message buried in a time capsule?

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    I saw the movie and enjoyed it but as serendipity said, some things didn't make sense. Like, ok, white rabbits don't usually run 'wild' and who are looking after and raising the children in their 'new world'?

  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    Maybe it has to do with time and space? Like the aliens may have the technology to know what will happen years in advance, hence all these dates and such. Like someone dumped an entire data into someone's brain, just enough for the brain to interprete the message in numbers, just enuff to understand when writing it down.

    The little girl from the beginning of the movie was able to grow up and finally understand what all these numbers meant.

    Yiz

  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    who are looking after and raising the children in their 'new world'?

    The kids only said "chosen ones", they didn't say "kids" only or anything of that nature. There may be some adults or older teens.

    It's also possible the aliens who used this technology to "dump" data in their brain to include or added later the knowledge how to survive in the new world.

    Yiz

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    I haven't seen the movie, but it sounds like a (poorly worded) way to say that everything that happens has a cause, which is exactly what determinism says.

    Your statement is absolutely correct.

    But that's not the point the character was trying to get across. He was clearly saying that if the universe is deterministic, everything has a purpose. The alternative (he proposed) was that if the universe was not deterministic, then it is merely a result of a series of accidents and has no purpose.

    Determinism does not require purpose.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    You mean the part about being taken away by space aliens? ... yeah I can see the Biblical reference

    The director clearly intended for some people to think the creatures could be angels. They appeared to have angelic wings, afterall.

    But the fact that they were using vehicles lead me (and probably most?) to the alien conclusion. I listened to the director's commentary at that part of the movie and that ambiguity was intentional.

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    I saw it the other night, most of it was pretty good, but the ending is a science fiction cliche that went out of style years (decades?) ago. The demon/angel/alien thing has been done to many times, the implication being that the angels/demons in the Bible are really aliens. See Von Danikan's (sp) books. Years ago when I was trying to get some scifi published I read a blurb from an editor who said that if you sent him a story about marooned aliens that turn out to be Adam and Eve he would never open another manuscript from you.

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Maybe the theme is more ancient than you realize. Look at these weird church statuaries on the facade of building. They show angels grabbing children and the kids don't look very happy about it at all.

    http://paradoxplace.com/Photo%20Pages/France/Burgundy%20Champagne/Autun/Autun_Portal.htm

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