If The Bible Is The Word Of God... (page 18)

Deputy Dog

Spike

DD: no. Jesus was human only from conception till death. I understand that Jesus was NOT resurrected as a human, but as an angel in the form of a human.

So when Jesus said he came down, nothing came down? Was he lieing?

Chalam

DD: no. Jesus was human only from conception till death. I understand that Jesus was NOT resurrected as a human, but as an angel in the form of a human.

Like a "spirit creature" right?

Wrong!

Luke 24:39 (English Standard Version)

39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

Extra homework for you Master Tassel!

All the best,

Stephen

Deputy Dog

Spike

I understand that Jesus was NOT resurrected as a human, but as an angel in the form of a human.

I'm not asking about after the ressurection (yet). If anything came down Jesus would have to be more than just human.

to Chalam: As many scriptures indicate, an angel may manifest itself as though a human, and are even described as being such, though they are actually not. Appearances are one thing, substance is something else.

to DD: I don't comprehend your riddle

Chalam

Hi Spike T,

to Chalam: As many scriptures indicate, an angel may manifest itself as though a human, and are even described as being such, though they are actually not. Appearances are one thing, substance is something else.

I have heard it before from JWs. I assume this is WT teaching. Anyhow, even if it is from Papa Smurf I don't care, it goes directly against the words of the bible and the very words of Jesus Himself. They said though He was a ghost (spirit), He said not. Is He a liar or being deceitful?

Now consider this, Jesus was hungry and ate broiled fish. What else does the bible say on that matter. Here is someone else who returned from the dead and had something to eat. Do you think she was an angel too?

Luke 8:52-55 (New International Version)

52 Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. "Stop wailing," Jesus said. "She is not dead but asleep."

53 They laughed at him, knowing that she was dead. 54 But he took her by the hand and said, "My child, get up!" 55 Her spirit returned, and at once she stood up. Then Jesus told them to give her something to eat.

How about Lazarus? Or Eutychus in Acts 14 etc?

Anyhow, next you will quote this verse 1 Corinthians 15:50 and then I will tell you to read carefully that Jesus was resurrected as "flesh and bones", not "flesh and blood".

The evidence weighs heavily against the WT doctrines. I do not see a single verse that simply states that Jesus was the angel Michael. I just see whole chapters on the contrary Hebrews 1

All the best,

Stephen

Spike Tassel

to Chalam:— Regarding Jehovah and the angels who appeared to Abraham and Lot, note Genesis 18:1 [Jehovah appeared], 18:2 [threemen were standing], 18:16 [the men got up from there], 18:22 [the men turned from there, Jehovah was still standing before Abraham], 18:33 [Jehovah went his way], 19:1 [now the twoangels arrived].

This is but one of many such anthropomorphic appearances the Bible tells of regarding Jehovah and angels.

Deputy Dog

Spike

Appearances are one thing

So Jesus only had to appear to ressurect?

Spike Tassel

to IA:— I have faith that the WTS is a rep of both Jehovah God and His Son Jesus Christ, even though you obviously no longer claim such (according to your current statements on JWN at least).

to DD:— When Jesus said "he came down", then "he came down", whoever "he" was, in whatever form "he" took

Deputy Dog

Spike

to DD:— When Jesus said "he came down", then "he came down", whoever "he" was, in whatever form "he" took

Is this your theocratic way of saying you don't know?

Spike Tassel

to DD:— I said what I can, based on what I understand so far

If The Bible Is The Word Of God...

Luke 24:39 (English Standard Version)

Luke 8:52-55 (New International Version)

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