Who are the "other sheep"?

by cameo-d 39 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    Even though the orgaisation is a small player in the grand scheme of things, it is causing immense mental, emotional, and physical harm to several million people. That is what matters.

    They destroy homes, families, people die each day because of their edicts on the medical use of blood. That is what matters.

    Their limitation of the Christian's hope to a small elect few denies the genuine JW seeker most of the promises that Scripture offers. To the organisation, Christ died only for the Elect few, not for the vast majority of JWs.

    Even if one person was being harmed it would matter, but we are speaking of many millions of people whose lives are totally manipulated, people being deluded, people giving up everything for a big lie.

    We care for the people, the victims, not for the organisation.

  • awildflower
    awildflower

    OMG, the GB have been getting there predictions from the 'other sheep' all along!

  • Spike Tassel
    Spike Tassel

    Even though the orgaisation is a small player in the grand scheme of things, it is causing immense mental, emotional, and physical harm to several million people. That is what matters.
    They destroy homes, families, people die each day because of their edicts on the medical use of blood. That is what matters.
    Their limitation of the Christian's hope to a small elect few denies the genuine JW seeker most of the promises that Scripture offers. To the organisation, Christ died only for the Elect few, not for the vast majority of JWs.
    Even if one person was being harmed it would matter, but we are speaking of many millions of people whose lives are totally manipulated, people being deluded, people giving up everything for a big lie.
    We care for the people, the victims, not for the organisation.

    others, like me, see that their methods for the powerful truth that it can be to the one wholly-dedicated to learning correctly from Jehovah, Jesus, and the organization they choose to sponsor

  • PrimateDave
    PrimateDave

    Cameo, as a born-in Witness I know the answer to the question, "Who are the 'other sheep'?"

    Since I no longer believe in the teachings of the WTS, I know that the question and its answer are irrelevant to me.

    The information you cited in your original post does not appear to me to alter the Watchtower's interpretation or doctrine to my knowledge.

    I think you are reading something into the material that isn't there.

    You want to believe in a conspiracy, so you are grasping at straws to find evidence that someone in the WT Writing Department is giving out secret information in "code."

    "It is a cog in the wheel. All religions are part of the big conspiracy."

    You want a conspiracy? I'll give you a "conspiracy" that is as plain as the nose on my face: The WTS, like most major religions, businesses, and even governments, is a Corporation. What is a Corporation, you ask? It is a machine for eating fuel, raw materials, and people that makes money while creating waste products. The Watchtower Corporations eat people, paper, fuel, and other materials in order to make money, books, magazines, tracts, and buildings. Books, magazines, and tracts can become garbage very quickly. If buildings and landscapes are not maintained, they decay and return to a natural state. In order to maintain property and prevent it from turning into garbage, money is needed. So, the WTS must continue to "eat."

    The same basic formula can be applied to almost any Corporation. They exist soley to make money in order to pay shareholders. To make money they consume resources and make "products" which become waste or garbage sooner or later. McDonalds is a good example. They make money by selling a product which very quickly becomes shit. In order to get beef and chicken cheap enough to sell you and still make a profit, they are willing to buy meat products from industrial scale meat producers and factory "farms." Their sales outlets are designed to be durable, but even they must be constantly maintained and renovated. Nevertheless, McDonalds doesn't exist to make hamburgers, they exist to make money for stock holders in the corporation.

    The Corporation of the US Govenment makes money for its shareholders by selling debt which it promises to pay back with interest. It gets money to pay that debt from taxation. The taxation comes from the economic activity of corporate 'persons' whose collective activity amounts to eating up the planet while shitting out heat, carbon, and toxic waste. This, in a nutshell, is the current purpose of humanity on this planet. How is that for a "conspiracy"?

    Government support aimed at cushioning the effects of the financial crisis in the U.S. could reach $23.7 trillion, a special inspector general overseeing U.S. bailout efforts planned to tell Congress on Tuesday....

    The top Republican on the oversight committee, Rep. Darrell Issa of California, blasted the figure provided by Barofsky, saying "If you spent a million dollars a day going back to the birth of Christ, that wouldn't even come close to just $1 trillion--$23.7 trillion is a staggering figure." -WSJ

    Where does all that "money" come from? What does "money" really represent?

    What is Money?

    Sorry to get so off topic. There is so much more interesting stuff out on the net to read without me looking for secret code language in the latest Watchtower magazines.

    Dave

  • LUKEWARM
    LUKEWARM

    The "other sheep" are the same as the "great crowd" of Revelation 7 because the WTS says so...

  • PrimateDave
    PrimateDave

    Technically speaking the so-called Great Crowd is only a subset of the "other sheep" class. That is to say that there are more "other sheep" than just the Great Crowd because the "other sheep" includes those who have already died and will [supposedly] return in the resurrection.

  • Manjana
    Manjana

    Hi all,

    Kind a new here, hope you all are fine. Sorry my bad english sometimes. From Denmark.

    In the Sept. WT, it mentions

    144,000 Brothers and "other sheep"ยด

    How discriminating, what about the sisters maby they are the sheeps

  • civicsi00
    civicsi00

    cameo-d - Unless I missed it somewhere, you haven't answered the question: How long were you a Witness? Or were you a Witness at all?

    The answer to the question you posed is easily known by most people who have ever been associated with the Watchtower (especially baptized JW's). There are a LOT of statements made in the Study versions of the WT magazine that no longer require further explanation. They simply are "truth" to every Witness. It's as simple as that.

  • the research lady
    the research lady

    The other sheep of John 10:16 are non-Jews. There are 42 versus in John chapter 10, so for the Watchtower org. to take one scripture out of context to teach part of their lies is inexcusable. Read the whole chapter to see its meaning. The Watchtower org. is nothing but a big business masquerading as a religion. It has been around for way too long but its demise is imminent. For any active Witnesses on this board, join in with others who will be taking part in the "mass exodus" to begin in August of this year. Follow the words of John in Revelation 18:4--"I heard another voice from heaven, saying, "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues:" Some may ask, where do we go? In Matthew 11:28-30 Jesus said "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. "Take my yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart,and you will find rest for your souls". (NASB) Here is a link for more information.http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/massexodus.html

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    I always liked Lamb Chop...

    Lambchop

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