by whereami 58 Replies latest jw friends
"I hope that God surprises you one day and lets you know that He is quite well."
Wouldn't that be a pleasant surprise. I'm starting to get concerned about him. Nobody has heard from him in an awfully long time. Maybe he is sick and in bed or stuck on his "throne" with an upset belly.
Hmmm... I don't know a hairdryer might offend the FSM, because all that hot hair can dry out pasta pretty quickly. Perhaps if they pulled you out of a pool with a giant colander that would appease the almighty FSM.
actually, there are cases where a baptism is annulled based on a lack of proper understanding. In such a case, the announcement is made such as [Spike Tassel] is NOT one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
One of the problems with that is that only those of the heavenly, anointed class are apparently properly called "Jehovah's Witnesses" in a technical sense, because the name came in 1931, whereas the great crowd weren't recognized as such until 1935.
Blue Canary is absolutely correct - """ Oh, brother. This is as stupid as having surgery to reclaim your "virginity." If you want to draw attention to your beliefs there are more productive ways of doing so.""" I find this whole thing very strange - Atheists do not believe in baptism - so why do they believe in de-baptism???? I think that Atheism IS a religion. One definition of a religion is - ""a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe - a body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices"". I am sure that our Atheist friends can produce a definition that better fits there ideas though! But each to their own - if thats what floats your boat then go for it.
I think that Atheism IS a religion. One definition of a religion is - ""a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe - a body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices"". I am sure that our Atheist friends can produce a definition that better fits there ideas though! But each to their own - if thats what floats your boat then go for it.
Well said.
The longer I spend on JWN surrounded by such a great cloud of atheists, the more I realise that atheism is the new religion. Perhaps they could claim the title Dawkinists.
They have their preachers, they have their fundamentalism, they have their bibles, they have their conventions, and they get really, really angry when people question their faith.
As for getting de-baptised, that's bonkers. I thought atheists were the most intelligent people on the planet, or something like that. But getting de-baptised can't be a sign of large-domed braininess, can it?
Fantastic.
>> I think that Atheism IS a religion. One definition of a religion is - ""a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe - a body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices""
What you don't get is that Atheists dont agree on these matters. Those issues are beyond the scope of the word "atheism". And most atheists don't even give a rats ass about those matters, and don't have any unified "practices".
It seems to me you want to group all non-believers together in one group to make it convenient to hate them.
It seems to me you want to group all non-believers together in one group to make it convenient to hate them.
No offense to you personally, but that's a pot calling the kettle black moment. All religion is evil and is a virus that needs to be rooted out, yeah? Can you spell h-a-t-e m-e-s-s-a-g-e? It seems some want to group all believers together to make it easier to hate them.
I concede this may not be your personal world view, but it's one that's expounded by one of the three most intelligent people on the planet who happens to espouse atheistic evangelism.
Thank you for proving my point.
If you got a problem with some other smart guy, that's fine. But don't group me and other non-believers in with him.
And don't group me with people who blow up abortion clinics or fly planes into buildings.
Yes, JWs would accept a "de-baptism" as a form of disassociation from whatever religion was being "de-baptized". Renouncing former religions is an integral part of becoming recognized as an "unbaptized publisher" with Jehovah's Witnesses.
