Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth? (page 7)

Elsewhere

> Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?

No. It is a forgery... and a very poor forgery at that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/kenyan-birth-certificate_n_249850.html

First, the hospital is Coast Provincial General Hospital (sometimes said to be Coast Province General Hospital), not Coast General Hospital.
Second, Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.
Third, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.
Fourth, Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.
Fifth, the number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president.
Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.
Seventh, would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?
Eigth, his father (born in 1961) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.
Ninth, it was called the "Central Nyanza District," not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.
The document is dated 5 August 1964 -- a Saturday. From what I can find, Kenyan guvmint offices close early on Friday and are closed on Saturdays. Oooops [...]
This piece of paper certainly looks nice and new to be 45 years old -- unless the Kenyans were using acid-free paper back in 1964. Heh, heh.
Finally, Officials of Coast Province General Hospital reported: “We do not have computerized records going back to the 1960’s and can only sort through our archives by hand,” Dr. Christopher Mwanga, an administrator at the Mombasa hospital tells GLOBE. “We have searched for all the names of babies born on Aug. 4, 1961, and have not found the name of Barack Hussein Obama. That is all I can tell you.”

Hell... you can make your own Kenyan Birth Certificate. Download the blank form here, print it, and then fill out the form with a typewriter (if you can find one), or open this image in an image editing application and fill it out with a typewriter font, then print.

Mastodon

Hell... you can make your own Kenyan Birth Certificate. Download the blank form here, print it, and then fill out the form with a typewriter (if you can find one), or open this image in an image editing application and fill it out with a typewriter font, then print.

BURN!!! :D

Justitia Themis

Obama doesn't need even to prove that he was born in Hawaii. He could have been born in Kenya, and he could still be president, because he meets the criteria under Section 8, 1401.

He was born of a citizen (his mother) who was physically present in the US until she was least 18 years of age.

A natural born citizen can be someone who:

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years...

The Almighty Homer

There are two kinds of bigots and racists , one is quite open and obvious and the other hides themselves in an unobvious way.

Come on you low life racists come out of that closet and present yourself as you should.

Elsewhere

Justitia Themis,

I've seen that quoted a few times... I would really appreciate it if you could provide the source.

Thanks,
Else

Gregor

beksbks

LOL

Look up socialism dork. My goodness, you really need to start fact checking your right wing talkers before you parrot them.

SixofNine

Just google "Section 8, 1401", it's US code.

mrsjones5

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401 Prev | Next

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

How Current is This? The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; (b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property; (c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person; (d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States; (e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person; (f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States; (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person (A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and (h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to dhe birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html

Farkel

Note that Title 8 section 1401 describes what it takes to be born a citizen of the US. But the United States Constitution does not say the President must be "born" a Citizen, but that the President must be a "natural born" citizen.

The intent of this clause was clear at the time. Many of our founding fathers were not born in the Colonies, but in England. They wanted to make sure that future Presidents had to be born on US soil. That was their intent and that is why they used the term "natural born."

A person who is either 1) born in the USA or US Territories, or 2) US military bases not on US soil is qualfied to be President. Otherwise, a person is not qualfied based upon that restriction in the US Constitution.

The US Constitution trumps Title 8 of the US Code and any other federal or state law where those laws conflict.

Farkel

Is this really smoking gun of Obama's Kenyan birth?

§ 1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

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