WHERE in the bible does it say each creative day was 6,000 years? Ending around 1975??

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  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    The 7,000 creative day is an item that the watchtower walked away from. It has been a long time so my memory may not be absolutely correct. I remember comparing the AID book with the Insight book. The AID book clearly identifies the creative day as 7,000 years. This is the basis of the whole 1975 doctrine. They needed to wrap up god's day of rest by the end of the 1,000 year reign.

    The insight book does not relate the number of years to a creative day. So, I you can call the 7,000 year day old light. and the new light is dark.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    The AID book clearly identifies the creative day as 7,000 years. This is the basis of the whole 1975 doctrine. They needed to wrap up god's day of rest by the end of the 1,000 year reign.

    And in the uniquely circular manner of WT argument, the 1975 thing was used to reflectively "prove" the 7,000 year day. After all, obviously 1975 was the "right time" for the end, wasn't it? And wasn't it estimated to be about 6000 years into "man's existence"...so conversely, 1975 and the 7000 year day -

    They ended up "proving" EACH OTHER!!!

    EDIT TO SAY - ended up proving that BOTH were collectively a rancid stick of baloney, and the following generations of celebrated Watchtower scholars could not jettison both of them (and deny both of them) fast enough post-Freddie.

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    I fully bit on the 7000 year deal as a Jw. So, once upon a time I took my trusty NWT and spent weeks trying to piece together the OT timetable to confirm the 4026 date of 'creation of man' the Society uses, since this confirmation would be essensial to finding the end of the 6000 or 7000 year period in question [within a few years depending on when the naked lady conspired with the talking snake].

    I could never find a reliable template for determination of that date, and so just dropped it. I think the Brooklyn Bastards just made it all up.

    Jeff

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    Although scripture does not specifically say they are 7,000 years in length, the total of 49,000 years (7x7000) ties in well with the principle of the Jubilee year (every 50 years) when all those (Israelites) who are enslaved will be set free and their land returned to them. It is just too neat not to be part of God's plan.

  • blondie
    blondie

    last mention of 7,000 year long creative day.......The WTS technique is to stop mentioning it so that only oldtimers remember it.

    *** w87 1/1 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***

    Questions From Readers

    ? In ancient Israel a cycle of 49 years was followed by a Jubilee year (50th year). Does that Jubilee correspond to the period following God’s creative week of 49,000 years?

    Because the number 49 occurs in both cases, it might seem that the Jubilee would foreshadow the time following the end of a creative week of 49,000 years. But for mankind in general who receive God’s approval, what occurred during Israel’s Jubilee corresponds more with what will occur during the Millennium, the last thousand years of such creative week, not what follows after that week. Consider the basis for this:

    First, the Mosaic Law required that every seventh year be a sabbath for the land; crops were not to be sown, cultivated, or harvested. After the seventh Sabbath year (the 49th year), there came a special Jubilee year, the 50th year. It was a sabbath during which the land was again to rest. More importantly, liberty was proclaimed. Hebrews who had sold themselves into slavery were freed from indebtedness and servitude. Also, hereditary land was returned to families who had been forced to sell it. So the Jubilee was a time of release and restoration for the Israelites.—Leviticus 25:1-46.

    Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long.

    Noting the similarity in numbers, some have compared the 49 years of the ancient Jubilee cycle to such 49,000 years of the creative week. Reasoning this way, they have thought that Israel’s Jubilee (50th) year should prefigure, or foreshadow, what will come after the end of the creative week.

    However, bear in mind that the Jubilee was particularly a year of release and restoration for people. The creative week largely relates to the planet Earth and its development. But with regard to the outworking of God’s purpose for man on earth, the globe itself has not been sold into slavery and thus is not in need of liberation. It is mankind that needs that, and humans have existed, not for 49,000 years, but for about 6,000 years. The Bible shows that some time after Adam and Eve were created, they rebelled against God, thus coming into captivity to sin, imperfection, and death. According to Romans 8:20, 21, Jehovah God purposes to liberate believing mankind from this slavery. As a result, true worshipers on earth "will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God."—See also Romans 6:23.

    While the small group selected to be taken to heaven have had their sins forgiven from Pentecost 33 C.E. onward and thus already enjoy the Jubilee, the Scriptures show that the liberation for believing mankind will occur during Christ’s Millennial Reign. That will be when he applies to mankind the benefits of his ransom sacrifice. By the end of the Millennium, mankind will have been raised to human perfection, completely free from inherited sin and death. Having thus brought to an end the last enemy (death passed on from Adam), Christ will hand the Kingdom back to his Father at the end of the 49,000-year creative week.—1 Corinthians 15:24-26.

    Consequently, for believing mankind with earthly prospects, the liberation and restoration that marked the Jubilee year in ancient Israel will find a fitting parallel during the coming Millennial Sabbath. Then liberation and restoration will be experienced. That will be under Christ’s rulership, "for Lord of the sabbath is what the Son of man is."—Matthew 12:8.

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    Humph! I stand corrected. I wonder if I didn't read it in Tabernacle Shadows.

  • restrangled
    restrangled

    Go measure the base dimensions of the largest pyramid and total. Then add up the mileage from every kingdom hall in the U.S. To Bethel's location and add those for a total. Subtract the pyramid dimensions from the mileage total. Divide that number by 144,000 and then add 666. Wait, your not done....subtract or add what ever is necessary to come up with 1914 and you can count the beginning of time back from there.

    There you have it!

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    Blondie, would you happen to know how long it took post that 1987 wish-wash for them to actually print the dreaded "creative days are MANY thousands of years long?"

    BTW, couldn't help commenting on the celebrated form of Watchtower logic: ("study of fulfillment of prophecy","strongly indicate","it is understood") - not a direct scriptural reference or anything else for any of it other than we wished we were in the time of the end in 1975.

    Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week.

  • B_Deserter
    B_Deserter

    Blondie, here's an interesting article published a few years after the one you posted:

    It [Genesis] allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums in six creative eras, or “days,” to prepare the earth for human habitation.

    This is from an article in the February 8, 1990 Awake, pages 10-11

    It appears 1990 is when the society officially abandoned the 49,000-year-old-earth theory.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Earnest's "new light" would fit (almost) perfectly with a millenium following the 7 x 7,000 period, like the Jubilee year came after 7 x 7 years. Iow, if the 1,000-year rule was the 50th millenium of creation (like the Jubilee year was the 50th) instead of the 49th (as in the WT pattern down to 1987 at least). Only that would put Armageddon in 2975...

    Too bad including the millenium in the 7,000-year "day" was necessary to get the idea of 7,000-year days in the first place. :)

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