All About Palmtree

by palmtree67 37 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    All About Palmtree - Part 2

    I guess I'll just put the second part here. This is good therapy for me.

    Well, I told about what married life was like. But I also had two other things going on, pretty much through the whole 23 years.

    1. My stupid family, who puts the "fun" in dysfunctional. The day I got married was the last time I saw or spoke to my parents for almost 2 years. About 2 days after the wedding, the rest of the family were together and my grandmother made a random remark to another relative, who reported it to my mother. She immediately cut me and my grandparents off. My younger brothers and sisters were not allowed to talk to me or their grandparents.

    At one point or another, SOMEONE in our family is not talking to SOMEONE else. And the not talking will go on for years. I had made up my mind a long time ago that this "cutting people off" was both juevenile and un-Christian. And I promised them all that no matter what, I would never cut any of them off. One of my brothers and one of my sisters also agreed that none of us would do this to the others. However, about 10 years ago, my brother ( who's a "royal" elder ) cut my parents off. And about 8 years ago, he cut me off. So much for the pact to stick together.......And so much for having a relationship with my nephew. That hurt bad.

    But at least I still had my one sister!! And she had a son, who I loved as I loved my own kids. He is handicapped, mentally. He would beg to sleep over at my house, and I always let him, any time he wanted. Took him to movies and plays, spent lots of time with him. My sister and I called or visited every day. Those years were probably the happiest for me. Then, her step-son stole my husband's wallet. So......she cut me off. I cried EVERY DAY for 6 months, I missed my little nephew sooo much!! when I saw him at the Hall, i tried to say Hi and he screamed at me, "I am never talking to you again, I am never forgiving you!!" He was 7 years old. She had another baby shortly after she cut me off, who I have never seen.

    2. the second thing that was going on, started about 10 years into the marriage. A sister in the congregation, who had been df'ed, decided that I wasn't trying hard enough to be her friend. I wasn't friends with her BEFORE she was df'ed, so I felt no need to suddenly make friends with her. Even the elders agreed that I hadn't treated her any differently after her df'ing than before. Anyways, long story short, her and her family started harrassing me, stalking me. They would drive by our house, giving me "the finger". We had about $500 worth of vandalism done to our property and vehicles EVERY MONTH for years. could never prove it was them. Eventually, she recruited all her family, and many sisters who became her friend to all start a letter-writing campaign against me. For years, I had letters handed to me, mailed to me or placed in my meeting bag. They told me that everyone hated me, that i wasn't welcome in the congregation, they hoped I died a slow painful death. It was soooo hard to sit through a meeting and wonder, "Who wrote the last letter? Was it one of them, or maybe that sister who never talks to me?" Some meeting nights, I just couldn't do it.

    We moved to different congregations and she would get friends in the new congregation to write me letters too. I was always terrified my kids would see one of the letters or find out what was going on. I tried to make things "happy" for them. Eventually, though, things got so bad, that I went to the police. they investigated and had enough evidence to lay charges against one of the sisters ( an elder's wife ) but not the ringleader. But first, the elders wanted to meet with us. They viewed it all as a "personality clash". they forced her to apologize to me, but I knew she didn't mean it. I had to ask the cops to drop the charges. If I hadn't, then the elders would've viewed me as not accepting her apology......

    Anyhow, those are the other 2 things. If I had had a supportive family, maybe I could've stuck it out with the crappy marriage. If ihad had a good marriage, maybe I could've stuck it out with the crappy congregation. If I had had a supportive congregation, maybe I could've stuck it out with the crappy family.

    I guess I got to a point where I just didn't care anymore. And there was this guy that had been after me for years, and I finally just said, "What the Hell???" It only happened once and I realized right away that THAT is not who I am, not what I'm about. But I had to get out of the marriage, out of that city.

    And that's what I did.

    Next time I'll tell what happened after I left. As you can imagine, that was a S***T- show.

  • MrsPeaches
    MrsPeaches

    Oh my goodness! You must look back and wonder why you stayed in the religon! Palmtree, your story is fascinating. Thanks for the 2nd installment. I can't wait to read the next part.

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    PT, life has dealt you some bad hands. Sending love for healing :)

    I pray you get a joker or a Royal flush soon ;)

    All the best,

    Stephen

  • purplesofa
  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Palmtree - thanks for sharing. You need to find some happiness, I hope you do soon.

  • flipper
    flipper

    PALMTREE - My god sis ! My heart goes out to you for what you've been through. Hugs galore to you from Mrs. Flipper and me. If any of us feel like WE are going through any significant problems - all we will have to do is read your thread and find we really have nothing to complain about. Jesus Christ.

    I do hope you are in a happier and more secure place now in your life. You definitely have " earned " it just by the school of hard knocks. I wait with baited breath for the REST of your story ! We are happy to have you on the board here. You are a real assett to this board . I always love your posts and thoughts ! Hang in there and keep your chin up ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    what a traumatic life, I'm glad you did not stick it out....no one ever deserves treatment like that.....

    (((((hugs)))))))

    h4o

  • VIII
    VIII

    Wow.

    Your childhood sounds not uncommon-for the JWs. I think growing up a JW sucks the life out of many women for some reason. I came to the conclusion not too long ago (about 2 nights ago) that my mom didn't want kids and didn't love me either. I have been reading Psychology Today articles on why women are like that to children. There are many books by PHd psychologists etc. It is sad and sickening. I am very sorry for what you went through. I feel like I've aged 20 years in the last few days.

    The writer above is correct: women in particular who grow up in abusive households are prone to marry abusive men. The cards were stacked against you in that, then add in the JW factor and you were in a really terrible situation.

    Again, it is incredible you survived and got out. I am happy for you that you got out of your marriage and the JWs.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Hugs to Palmtree.

    And, to make the mood lighter...I have a joke to add.

    "A woman marries a man thinking she'll change him, but he never does. A man marries a woman thinking she won't change, but she does." LOL

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Palmtree,

    My family, too, is always "not talking" to someone about something. But, instead of being a little mad and avoiding the person...they make a big ta-doo about it and publicly state to other people, "I'm not talking with her..."

    I found a way to get this to stop. I just say, "You do whatever you want, but don't try to ruin my relationship with my sister. And, I won't let my sister ruin my relationship with you." Now, they don't come running to me and include me in their silliness.

    Skeeter

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