A dub told me that he heard from a CO that this COULD be a "call FOR peace and security" instead of a declaration OF peace and security. This means that things could be either very good, or very bad, but either way the prophecy would be fulfilled.
what happened to "peace and security"???
by highdose 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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fegiderodenriche
QUESTION #1 : WHY JWs’ PREVIOUS EXPECTATIONS ABOUT END OF TIME HAD NOT COME TO REALITY?
ANSWERS #1:
- (Habakkuk 2:3) For [the] vision is yet for the appointed time, and it keeps panting on to the end, and it will not tell a lie. Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late.
NOTE: “Even if it should delay, keep in expectation of it”
- (2 Peter3:3-4) For YOU know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires 4 and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning.”
NOTE: “that in the last days there will come ridiculers” “and saying: “Where is this promised presence of his?”
ELABORATION: JESUS’ DISCIPLES DIDN’T EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE MESSIAH. EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD THE CHRIST AT THEIR TIME, JESUS EXPRESSED THE PROPHECIES THROUGH ILLUSTRATIONS THAT DID NOT DIRECTLY TELL THE TRUTH. WHAT’S THE POINT? IN ORDER FOR CHRISTIANS TO KEEP IN MIND, THEY SHOULD KEEP ON WATCHING!!! THEY DISCERNED SOME OF JESUS’ WORD THROUGH THE TIME.
CONCLUSION: SOME WILL SWAY FROM TRUTH, THEY DO NOT REMEMBER THE VERY FOUNDATION OF TRUTH, “THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD JEHOVAH”.
QUESTION #2: WHY ARE THERE SOME CHANGES MADE BY JWs TO THEIR DOCTRINES (NOT THE BASIC DOCTRINES), ESPECIALLY RELATED TO TIME?
ANSWERS #2:
- (Proverbs 2:1-6) My son, if you will receive my sayings and treasure up my own commandments with yourself, 2 so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God. 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; out of his mouth there are knowledge and discernment.
NOTE: “so as to pay attention to wisdom with your ear, that you may incline your heart to discernment; 3 if, moreover, you call out for understanding itself and you give forth your voice for discernment itself, 4 if you keep seeking for it as for silver, and as for hid treasures you keep searching for it, 5 in that case you will understand the fear of Jehovah, and you will find the very knowledge of God”
- (Proverbs 4:18) But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.
NOTE: “path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter”
- (Daniel 12:4) “And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant.”
NOTE: “the [true] knowledge will become abundant”
ELABORATION: SOME TREASURE HUNTERS DID NOT EXACTLY POINT OUT THE TREASURES ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE MAP. DIGGING PROCESS IS ON THE WAY BUT SOMETIMES, WRONG PLACE HAPPENS MOST OF TIME. BUT, THEY ARE WITHIN THE VERY CLOSE PERIMETER OF THE HIDDEN TREASURES. UNTIL SUCH TIME THEY CATCH THE TRUE TREASURES. THE BIBLE VERSE COMPARES THE DISCERMENT FOR SILVER OR TREASURES IN ORDER TO REVEAL MAN’S MOTIVE ON SEEKING TRUTH AS STATED BY VERSE 5, JEHOVAH GOD MAKES SOME SORT OF CHALLENGES AND DON’T GIVE THE EXACT MEANING OF SOME PROPHECIES, LIKE END OF TIME. AS MENTIONED BY HABAKKUK 2:3, EVEN IF IT SHOULD DELAY, KEEP IN EXPECTATION OF IT. THE PATH (THE WAY TO TRUTH) OF JEHOVAH’S PEOPLE IS ENLIGHTENING (NOT INSTANTLY) UNTIL THE TRUE KNOWLEDGE WILL (PROGRESSIVE) BECOME ABUNDANT.
THERE LOTS OF CHALLENGES AND CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE AT EARLY GOD’S PEOPLE AND CHRISTIAN.THE QUESTIONS ARE, WHY JEHOVAH GOD DID NOT DETAIL THE TRUTH? WHY HE HAD LET THEM KNOW THROUGH THE PERIOD OF TIME? WHY HE WANTS HIS PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE VERY MEANING OF TIME? IS MISCALCULATION A DISAPPROVAL OF GOD? IS EXPECTATION IS WRONG EVEN THOUGH WITH A RIGHT MOTIVE? HERE ARE SOME ISSUES RAISED DURING EARLY TIMES:
NOTE: BASIC TRUTHS WERE STILL THE SAME.
1. LAWS OF MOSES, SOME OF THEM DO NOT APPLY TO CHRISTIAN.
2. THE ISSUES ROSE WITHIN THE CONGREAGATIONS.
3. THE EXPECTATIONS FOR MESSIAH.
4. AND SO ON. . . .
CONCLUSION: SOME MISLED BY THEIR OWN DESIRES, NOT FOR GOD’S SAKE. THEY CAME FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY NOT FOR LOVE, A SELFISH MOTIVE.
THE VERY KNOWLEDGE OF JEHOVAH NOT COMES ON US INSTANTLY. KEEP SEEKING FOR IT AS FOR SILVER, AND AS FOR HID TREASURES YOU KEEP SEARCHING FOR IT, IN THAT CASE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE FEAR OF JEHOVAH, AND YOU WILL FIND THE VERY KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, RIGHTEOUS ONES IS LIKE THE BRIGHT LIGHT THAT IS GETTING LIGHTER AND LIGHTER UNTIL THE DAY IS FIRMLY ESTABLISHED.
THE WAY OF THE WICKED ONES (THE APOSTATES AND RIDICULERS) IS LIKE THE GLOOM; THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN AT WHAT THEY KEEP STUMBLING – PROVERBS 4:19.
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Cadellin
Welcome, Feg! Firstly, you have an interesting handle; I'm curious as to its meaning, if you feel like sharing.
Second, you might want to release the caps lock on your keyboard, since all caps is like YELLING AT SOMEONE, and I'm sure you weren't intending that.
Thirdly, I'm not sure your treasure hunter analogy works so well. If the WT/FDS/GB are like treasure hunters, they're treasure hunters who dig like crazy in one spot all the while declaring, "This is where God is telling us to dig and if you don't dig with us right here, you don't love Jehovah!" until its starkly obvious there's nothing there. Then they run to a new spot and start digging like crazy all the while repeating the same thing. If someone asks about all of the empty holes surrounding them, their reply is "Holes? What holes? Oh, THOSE holes--apostates dug them!"
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fegiderodenriche
Thanks for your comments. . .
First, I would like to ask an apology regarding with the misinterpretation brought by capital letters. It gives only an emphasis.
Second, the purpose of this is to enlighten the people outside JWs community and those who are swayed by their own feelings without looking at the basic knowledge that Jehovah God helped them to free from false teachings.
The last concern is to help some Jehovah's people who have a doubt to watchtower credibility especially to the end of time and inconsistency. For me, WT/FDS/GB are the legal digger, at least they dig within the perimeter of knowledge until they’ll find it. The actual miners could not exactly determine where the treasure is (I was grown up in copper and gold mining). But, they can exactly point out about 50m to 100m radius. That's why they use blasting in order to determine the abundance of the earth. Same with WT/FDS/GB, they are legal Geologist used by Jehovah but God wants them to exert effort to ensure how the deep is their love, not in a selfish motive. And now, Jehovah God is executing some of his promises, in behalf of His name and witnesses. If you pay real close attention the first phase is already being set for that. The people of this world have no sanctity or feeling toward the religion. The saying of peace and security is very obvious from this time even in our country (Phil), the house of congress proposed a bill to support this spectacular event . But we must remember we serve not in a self way but to love Jehovah with all our heart, soul and mind.