Wife update! Gradualism....Gradualism....Gradulism.. Satan's Tool Box

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  • Open mind
    Open mind

    I would like to give my heartfelt thanks to the 12 or so goobers in New York for yesterday's WT lesson all about the Effin D Slave, err, F&D Slave.

    After the meeting my wife asked me........

    drumroll please..................

    "So, .............................

    DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ALL THAT?"

    Think fast. Think fast. What am I gonna say? What am I gonna say?

    Not too much. Not too little.

    OM: "Well, I don't see a whole lot of evidence for all the claims that are made."

    24 hours go by.

    We have another convo.

    I say it's definitely a high control religion. If Jehovah is really the way we've been taught all our lives, I can't love him, and he's gonna smite me with eternal non-existence. I'm glad I wasn't raised hard-core Fundy Christian or I'd be looking at eternal flames.

    I let her in on a few upcoming and ongoing local Elder-business fiascos to further demonstrate the Corporate nature of the religion of our youth. (Benefits of keeping the Elder hat to those taking notes.)

    She confides that our recent conversations have weakened her "faith".

    I ask her just what she means by faith.

    1. Belief in God or 2. Belief that what we've been taught all our lives is absolutely correct?

    She admits she means the latter.

    I share one of my favorite quotes from JWN:

    "I'd rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question."

    The religion of our youth is great and neat and tidy. As long as you believe it 100%. As soon as you start noticing inconsistencies, it starts unraveling.

    JWs: Good people. Some good ideas. Some wacky ideas.

    Some ruined lives. Some semi-ruined lives.

    All in a day's work.

    Gradualism......Gradualism......Gradualism.

    Satan must be so proud.

    om

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Great news.

  • GoddessRachel
    GoddessRachel

    Exciting! You are so patient, and wonderful, Open Mind!!!!

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    OM, I appreciated your comment about the saying that you told her (questions I can't answer than answers I can't question), and in fact, it spawned a thread on the subject. Id like to hear your thoughts on it.

    I'm really surprised your wife just out and asked about all this. It really seems she's coming around.

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Thanks Goddess Rachel.

    Daniel-P:

    "in fact, it spawned a thread on the subject. Id like to hear your thoughts on it."

    Link?

    That quote is very hackneyed by now for a long-time JWD/JWN reader, but it was the first time my wife had heard it and it packed a powerful punch. She completely understands and agrees that anything less than 100% compliance with WT dogma will not be countenanced.

    The Watchtower collar is getting a bit too tight for her strong life-loving spirit, methinks. She made comments along the lines of "I don't think I want to live forever if it's going to be the way the Watchtower wants us to live. 95% of your life belongs to Jehovah and 5% belongs to you. No thanks."

    I don't want to get too excited though. Family ties are numero uno and we've got extended JW family throughout the galaxy.

    Here's one more excerpt I just remembered:

    Wife: "How can we present the Truth (tm) to our kids like we're excited about it, when we feel like this?"

    Moi: "I can't. And I don't. I'm not a zealot and I don't expect them to be either. They'll just be ostracized at school and for what? If we don't have Absolute Truth, then we shouldn't act like it. It's really obnoxious when you think about it."

    om

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Please ignore the ensuing thread derailment bestowed upon it by a certain someone:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/180925/1/Clear-Thinking-and-Guerilla-Marketing-Tactics

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Well, it sounds like her doubt is pretty much complete for free-thinking. Even if you guys never break completely free due to family, it breaks the cycle.

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    Baby steps Baby steps your on the right road...............

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    great isn't it? It's very good of the GB to do the work for us by printing these preposterous articles.

    Keep up the good work Crooklyn.

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    ahhh, a smile to go along with morning coffee!!

    great to read, OM

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