IRAN-Deja vu all over again?
by JWdaughter 318 Replies latest social current
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leavingwt
Obama Presses Iran on Atomic Deal, Tehran Defiant
U.S. President Barack Obama said on Sunday time was running out for diplomacy in a dispute over Iran's nuclear program, but a top Iranian official said it was up to the West to show it sincerely wanted a deal.
Russia and France, both involved in talks with Iran over what the West fears are its plans for an atomic bomb, also put pressure on Tehran, with French Foreign Bernard Kouchner saying the Islamic republic looked set to reject a U.N.-drafted accord.
Obama suggested patience was running low in the dispute with Iran, which faces possible harsher international sanctions or even Israeli military action.
"Unfortunately, so far at least, Iran appears to have been unable to say yes to what everyone acknowledges is a creative and constructive approach," Obama said after talks with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on the sidelines of an Asia-Pacific summit in Singapore.
"We are running out of time with respect to that approach."
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llbh
I have read your cut and paste articles here LWT, what is your analysis here?
A very good friend, who is moderate ( read socialist in The US) and Jewish says quite bluntly that should Israel feel threatened they will take decisive action, against Iran and without consulting their allies.
The USA needs to use those with experience in the region to reach a solution, this they singularly failed to do under that buffoon George W Bush.
There were no wmd in Iraq, well what a shock! Where did, all except one, of the terrorists on 911 come from??? Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran?? Oh, from the house of Saud! Are they worried about being invaded , er no, reason?
Regards David
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leavingwt
David,
should Israel feel threatened they will take decisive action, against Iran and without consulting their allies.
Your friend's analysis mirrors my own. Israel bombed a Syrian site a few months ago, without asking anyone.
I assumed that Bush had given up on preventing Iran from getting nukes. His policy in this regard appears to have been a total failure. The new administrations seems to be signalling that they cannot talk Iran out of purusing these weapons.
-LWT
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llbh
I believe that Obama, is engaging constructively with Iran, they know it and want it. That is total volte face in US foreign policy, and is to be welcomed.
David
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freydo
I consider Iran an anti-type that will bring down anti-typical Babylon. The Papacy.
The wtbt$ might declare bankruptcy before then.
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BurnTheShips
they know it and want it.
Although Obama's engagement may produce fruit in the long run, I doubt truly that "they" want it. As all authoritarian regimes tend to do, the Iranian theocrats need an external enemy, a Goldstein, a "great Satan" to justify their raison d'etre. During the recent 30th anniversary celebration of the embassy hostage crisis (sponsored by the regime), it was the opposition demonstrators that were shouting "We are sorry".
BTS
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leavingwt
Inspectors Fear Iran Is Hiding Nuclear Plants
International inspectors who gained access to Iran’s newly revealed underground nuclear enrichment plant voiced strong suspicions in a report on Monday that the country was concealing other atomic facilities.
The report was the first independent account of what was contained in the once secret plant, tunneled into the side of a mountain, and came as the Obama administration was expressing growing impatience with Iran’s slow response in nuclear negotiations.
In unusually tough language, the International Atomic Energy Agency appeared highly skeptical that Iran would have built the enrichment plant without also constructing a variety of other facilities that would give it an alternative way to produce nuclear fuel if its main centers were bombed. So far, Iran has denied that it built other hidden sites in addition to the one deep underground on a military base about 12 miles north of the holy city of Qum. The inspectors were given access to the plant late last month and reported that they had found it in “an advanced state” of construction, but that no centrifuges — the fast-spinning machines needed to make nuclear fuel — had yet been installed.
The inspectors said Iran had “provided access to all areas of the facility” and planned to complete it by 2011. They also said they had been unable to interview its director and designers.
The inspectors confirmed American and European intelligence reports that the site had been built to house about 3,000 centrifuges, enough to produce enough material for one or two nuclear weapons a year. But that is too small to be useful in the production of fuel for civilian nuclear power, which is what Iran insists is the intended purpose of the site.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/17/world/middleeast/17nuke.html?_r=1&hp
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llbh
BTS i am sorry when i said 'they', i meant the populace as a whole. However that being said, i do not think that ruling Mullahs want or seek confrontation, they will however do all they can to hold to power, on that we agree.
The ruling party will do all they can to play fast and loose with the international community, which is precisely why Obama need to be thoughtful, resolute, and build a consensus amongst the international community.
David
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leavingwt
build a consensus amongst the international community.
IF Obama can get Russia to go along with some real sanctions, his foreign policy would be seen as genius. That would be huge. I sure hope something meaningful happens. There are NO pleasant military options for containing Iran.
-LWT