by greenie 23 Replies latest jw friends
Just wondering, are there any religions that exist that might be palatable to Dubs?
None compatible, the main one they have a problem with is Christianity, i.e. following Christ.
Have you prayed about your situation and asked what to do?
All the best,
Stephen
jwfacts, nice article, 'there is a difference between religion and spirituality'.
In my personal experience.......
I think it is about finding a denomination (or non-denomination) that has a pastor/deacon (etc) willing not only to 'work' with him but also willing to accept the stuff he isn't ready to let go of without being condemning.....
Stress that indoctrination is what you teach your child individually (or as a couple) while fellowship is about the associating with those who act as Christians in their deeds and lives. Many denominations for instance not only do charity work but have 'visitation' type ministries should he miss FS. Ultimately most churches regardless of denominational divisions are friendly, it is just about finding the right fit socially.
I disagree with the Christadelphians because he probably would like to keep believing Satan is real.
Depending on your location you might want to see if there are any local Bible Students. Yes the ones who didn't go with Rutherford still exist and are autonomous so their professions do vary as a 'safer-feeling' transition.
This all said......while it is admirable you are willing to compromise, what denomination do you favor?
While I know what you are looking for, and don't think you will find a clear answer, some of the people who have done what you are suggesting can be found at brci.org. Contact them there through the links. They are former JW's that left to find Christianity some other way.
My wife took the approach that when I could find something else, she would listen to me about how JW's is the wrong religion. But her definition of something else would pretty much be- A Watchtower organization that doesn't have the same leaders. There are plenty of beliefs out there that teach some of what JW's teach- No trinity or members spreading the word or such. But there really isn't quite the flavor of the dangerous mind-control cult without the dangerous mind-control part.
I think rather than try a familiar fitting religion, you are asking for something that is not so radical to a JW, that they can get comfortable with. Tons have done that. If not BRCI, then some should come along and actually suggest the way you might approach that. Just keep in mind that traditional or typical Christianity is very "Christian" or Christ-oriented, and not very Jehovah-oriented.
This was pulled from : http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/christadelphianism/what-do-christadelphians-teach
As you can see, the Christadelphians have VERY similar beliefs to jws...with the exeption that they make reference to the cross. But do your research. The jw's pull sentences/references out of context. You will find many of the references they give in literature ALSO say it is possible that Christ died on a cross.
Sorry, not trying to make this into a different topic. The jw's say " but where else would you go?"...well, that's one way to look at it. Or you could just see that jw's are not original at all, like they try to force their members to believe.
And if you find faults with the Christadelphians beliefs, what if they change it one day and claim 'new light'? Why can only jw's claim that?
Sorry, my comment was posted twice. ;-)
IMHO Christadelphians are another false group, hence the similarities with JWs.
I have highlighted some things here they reject
Christadelphians reject a number of doctrines held by many other Christians, notably the immortality of the soul, trinitarianism, [ 65 ] [ 68 ] the pre-existence of Jesus Christ, [ 66 ] [ 68 ] the baptism of infants, [ 79 ] the personhood of the Holy Spirit [ 67 ] [ 68 ] [ 65 ] [ 66 ] and the present-day possession of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. [ 67 ] [ 69 ] [ 68 ] They believe that the words devil and satan are references to sin and human nature in opposition to God. According to Christadelphians, these terms are used in reference to specific political systems or individuals in opposition or conflict. Hell is understood to refer to death and the grave, rather than being a place of eternal torment. [ 85 ] Christadelphians do not believe that anyone can go to Heaven. Instead, they believe that only Christ Jesus went to Heaven, and when Christ Jesus comes back to the earth the true believers will live in the Land of Israel which will be the Kingdom of God on Earth. Christadelphians believe the doctrines they reject were introduced into Christendom after the 1st century, [ 86 ] and cannot be demonstrated from the Bible. [ 65 ] [ 68 ] [ 66 ]
All the best,
Stephen
Good list AnSnap! I have highlighted the ones which ring alarm bells.
Of course, 6. should read " They believe that there has been an apostasy and that Christadelphians is a false religious system" which would be correct!
All the best,
Stephen
Woops-mashup!
Woops-double mashup!
