People dont get disfellowshipped anymore

by foolsparadise 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  "So-and-so has been disfellowshipped for conduct unbecoming a Christian." How many of us remember that?

  How many remember the years when an unbaptized publisher who got involved in wrongdoing was "marked" and treated the same as disfellowshipped, even though they had never been dunked?

  It's all semantics. The wording is changed for legal reasons and so they don't sound like a cult. But everything really is the same, because they are a cult.

  "Witnesses talk to non jws all the time, so we should be allowed to talk to members who are announced as no longer one of jehovahs witnesses. They are not being announced as disfellowshipped."

  Of course that's true. However, if the dubs see you publicly talking to someone that is "announced as no longer being one of jehovahs witnesses", guess what happens? You get "announced as no longer being one of jehovahs witnesses".
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  zions watchman

  I know that since I left no announcment has be made I don't think... but my FAMILY sure does SHUN ME. Ani't it good I guess when I die the Money I have will have to go to some good charity.
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  SirNose586

  In theory, you're right, foolsparadise. But we all know it's still code for shunning.
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  DrJohnStMark

  My no longer being a JW was never announced at the kingdom hall (officially I'm out after signing a form long time ago) but I'm shunned in any case. They know. Only a few members of the congregation say hello... some time ago a couple of pioneers even switched (in an illegal way) to the other side of the street in the city when they saw me coming.
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  drew sagan

  Has the Watchtower ceased using the word 'disfellowship' in its literature? I remember it fequently being used when I was in (left in 07)
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  cantleave

  It is still called disfellowshipping or disassociating if you leave on your own accord. The result is still the same, no contact with other witnesses even family ,unless there is an emergency. The announcement is benign for legal reasons, and IMO to make the congregation think the worst of the person. It all load of controlling measures to keep the rank and file from finding the Truth about the Troof.
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  stillin

  my experience with the whole thing is, not that anybody is being "disciplined" and all hope that they "turn around"and return to the fold. My experience is that the real agenda is "he's not one of us. Maybe if we ignore him he will go away altogether."
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  Rumspringa

  Yeah, no more disfellowshipping as I understand it.

  When my father (who's an elder) announced that they were formally shunning me, he also begged me to "formally dissasociate" myself from the org.

  I said, "why, I'll just let em DF me". He stated that policy had changed......then begged me again to DA. Seeing how pissed he was that I wasn't going to do that.....has given me a nice warm feeling all over, & renewed my enthusiasm for kicking the org in the bag.

  r.
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  skeeter1

  Yeah, no more disfellowshipping as I understand it.

  Could it be an attempt by WT Legal to assimilate into Russia? The Russian government does not like the WTS because of its disfellowshipping and shunning.

  Remember that WT/Awake! over the summer about the right of everyone to change their religion without consequences from thier community? I understand that this magazine was written just for the WTS Legal Department to use as a handout at a "worldly" conference of Russian/government leaders in Russia.

  Could it be an attempt to get around coercion and the blood issue?

  Hmmmm. Interesting development, me thinks.

  Skeeter
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  Lillith26

  I remember they made the announcemnet about changing how they would in future announce a person to be DF ( Feburary/March this year...?).

  "So an so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"- so it would not be formally made public whether the person DA'd or was DF'd-( like there is a difference in how you are taught there how to treat So&so........)

  The lady I was studing with was very quick to tell me that is very rarely that a person is DF'd and not be too concerned about it, "it is for their own good, truley".... (What a load of CRAP!)