An Apology ..... (of sorts)

by AllTimeJeff 40 Replies latest jw friends

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  AllTimeJeff

  It's ok Jeff, cuz you're usually right. Until you wimp out and apologize

  *hiding from Beks.....*

  Beks, I only apologize for arguing in a too personal manner, not for my politics....

  I do believe that the righties and the lefties can come to an accomodation on some things. Obviously, we (the lefties) are not going to compromise and give up on important social issues, like gay rights and a womans right to choose. I would much rather feel like the fundies are trying to explain their views then the "join us or die" feelings I get sometimes....

  So I don't apologize for where I stand. But I think in the future, both sides are going to need to try and get along somehow....

  ...and when I don't contribute to a more civilized discussion, I feel bad about that...
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  beksbks

  I know, you sweet man!

  you have a PM
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  Finally-Free

  I don't know what it's all about but I'll forgive you if you buy me a beer.

  W
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  AllTimeJeff

  Beer for all! I am having a bad apology, whimp kegger!
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  John Doe

  Here's a tip, if an apology takes more than a half dozen words, it ain't worth making. (and in most cases it's not an apology)
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  AllTimeJeff

  Here's a tip, if an apology takes more than a half dozen words, it ain't worth making. (and in most cases it's not an apology)

  Here's another tip, if an apology is under 6 words, then probably the person is unaware of what he is apologizing for.
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  John Doe

  People who "apologize" and use it as a platform to write a 10 page didactic and condescending essay get stuck in my craw, as they do for most folks. An apology is an expression of regret for a particular action. That's it. You express regret for your action, and you put your action into a handful of words. Anything else is obnoxious and insincere.
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  AllTimeJeff

  Doe, no it isn't. Has it occurred to you that different people apologize in different ways?

  Or would you have the world act only as you would have it?

  I have no quarrel with you, nor do I apologize for my manner of apologizing.

  Having said that, I know I can't help how you think. Sorry dude.
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  watson

  ATJ, You always state your case well. Keep up the good work. You should know that for many of us here "voyeurs," we love the fight!! It's stimulatin' in other ways!
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  John Doe

  Opinions are like certain orifices, everyone has one.

  It's only if you insist that yours is the only one in the room that counts that you become like certain orifices......

  And this has what to do with an apology?

  With that in mind, I wish to offer a small but sincere apology to all members of our unique little community on JWN. (that even includes Perry)

  Sincertity is highly questionable, and this "apology" is anything but "small."

  Now mind you, I don't apologize for the views I have, esp my political ones. And I don't feel that my arguments or the reasons behind them are any less relevant then my right handed political foils.

  Before you've even said what you're apologizing for, you're still throwing a jab in that your views are very important. Again this has what to do with the apology?

  But I do regret when I over argue my points.

  And there it is, buried in all of this other nonsense.

  Why I even go beyond stating my views with posters here such as Perry, or Deputy Dog, (and others who I choose to ignore) is beyond me. But I knew a long time ago, that they aren't changing.

  For that matter, I wonder if they realize, that I/WE aren't changing either!

  A dig at your ideological opponents, and a condescending shot at them.

  Suffice to say, some debates of late have become too personal, and have distorted the arguments. While I am confident my intents in these debates are relatively clear for anyone who can read them all and not get cross eyed, I wish to clarify that I don't hate anyone, as one has accused me of. I don't hate Christians. I was married in an Episcopalian Church, and my in laws are Christian. They actually act like Christ, and I love them. If ever I was to be a Christian, I would be like them. I think Jesus would approve.

  More static.

  I used a poor choice of words in saying that I hate certain world views. It is more accurate to say that I hate what many of these polarizing views cause, such as real hate crimes against gays, the mis-treatment of women, etc.

  Sincere apologies do not attempt to justify the behaviour being apologized for.

  Having said that, I am still at odds over many "right handed" views, esp social ones. And for anyone who quotes the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, or even Palin (bless your heart), well, I will be there to counter those statements or opinions.

  And, once again, reiterating your arugmentative behaviour that you're supposedly apologizing for.

  But I have acted in a way that even I disagree with. So I apologize for allowing it to get personal.

  Ohhh, even "you" disagree with it amongst us lowly turds. How thoughtful of you.

  I can't control what anyone thinks, and while I do care what (most of) you think, it isn't to a point where I am staying up at night. This apology is primarily because I think I was wrong, and when I am wrong, I do at least try to admit it.

  Thanks, it's good to know you don't care what we think.

  Otherwise, its THANKSGIVING!! I wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving, and a great start to the holiday season.

  (....even Perry)

  And yet another jab. Frankly, this entire post is sickening. Here would be an example of a sincere apology:

  "I've become too argumentative in recent posts, and I want to apologize for that. I offer no excuses, I take full responsibility, and I'm going to try to keep it from happening again."