Mass Murder

by cantleave 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • pat1060
    pat1060

    Very well said.

  • glenster
    glenster

    Before you decide on this, are you sure you'd want everyone around you
    forever? There are some people I wouldn't want to be around for a minute.
    Imagine what it could look like to a higher quality being than one of us.
    Russell's ideas brought it to my attention, although he had a variation of it
    with himself part of an elite 144,000, so it wasn't exactly universalism.

    The prevalent view for the first five or six centuries was Christian univer-
    salism. Everyone was out of God's good graces since Adam and Eve, so everyone
    is covered by the crucifixion, so everyone goes to heaven.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Universalism

    Be careful what you wish for. You may get it.

  • The Almighty Homer
    The Almighty Homer

    The cruelty of Jehovah correctly depicts the cruelty of mankind's sense of humanity of the times when men first imagined this one and great god.

    The Israelites embellished many stories of how great and powerful their god was for many reasons particularly by men who

    aligned themselves with this god in an effort to gain prominence and stature within their identifying social culture.

    This still continues today in organizations such as the WTS. or JWS.

    Religions prominent tenement is about control and the JWS use Armageddon as a vehicle to accomplish this.

    There is no Jehovah the mass murderer so don't worry about it. Homerovah

  • glenster
    glenster


    ^ Ironically, too unbalanced.

    The God concept has to be reconciled with the good AND bad of the world--
    of 1,000 BC, today, or tomorrow--that He's thought to preside over. A purely
    bad characterization would be as much a mischaracterization as characterizing
    the world as just bad. Job wouldn't have found any reason to believe in God or
    just life generally.

    I don't like the law of the land being religion--and you don't want to neglect
    to add state atheism--instead of separation of church and state because I don't
    think people should be hurt or killed over either one (in the case of religion,
    short of a divine intervention, and I haven't seen one). (See the list of links
    at the next link.)
    http://glenster1.webs.com/gtjbrooklyn43.htm

    Likewise, the JWs leaders are notably controlling and use uniquely harsh
    shunning rules, go beyond faith in the possible God to misusing research sources
    to make specialties seem substantiated, not characteristic of what goes on
    generally or necessary to personal faith.

    To characterize all of religion or faith by the worst examples above glosses
    over Jesus and followers not requiring a country with a militia to defend it or
    people executed if they deflect, to go among the Jews and Gentiles without
    giving offense, sacrificing of the self to gain others for God, etc. The people
    who came along centuries later and made it or Islam the law of the land were a
    regression, not an improvement.

    Faith is a personal choice like subjective freedom about what song you like.
    There is no religious or anti-religious authority who can stop that. The thing
    to worry about as a way people get hurt unnecessarily isn't God or not God,
    this or that nationality, race, etc. It's when people get too 'centric about
    any of them that they show unfair regard or treatment of others that you have to
    worry about them (see the same link as above).

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