Wasn't there some "prophecy" about a 7 year treaty?

by cameo-d 13 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  cameo-d

  (First of all, I don't believe this "prophecy" stuff. I suspect much of "revelation" is actually a scripted blueprint that *they* are following to make it appear as though it's been prophesied.)

  God's body is a lot like a human body; the brains of the operation are in the top of the pyramid and the bigger organizations with push are the muscles. What is really amazing is the "alphabet soup" (acronyms) that make up a complicated network of veins. It is quite a cloaking system.

  It seems that this 7 year treaty may have something to do with "Greening of the Churches" and committments to participate in the ...eco-religion, it sounds like. I guess in a couple of years they may start throwing around the Paradise word.

  The 7 Year Plan for Generational Change has just recently been launched.

  Here's something you might find interesting.

  Many Heavens, One Earth

  http://news. (closethisspace) bahai.org/sites/news.bahai.org/files/documentlibrary/736_windsor_commitments.pdf
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  cameo-d

  ROAR (Religious Organizations Along the River)

  Hudson Valley, NY

  This may be of interest.

  http://(closespace) arcworld.org/downloads/Christian-ROAR-plan.pdf
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  asilentone

  I have never heard of it, I do not think the Watchtower teach that.
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  cameo-d

  This is just a random source I pulled up when I googled "seven year covenant".

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  This coming peacemaker, whom Daniel calls "the prince who is to come" (Dan.9:26), will confirm a 7 year covenant involving the sovereignty of Israel and the western nations. This will be a confirmation of a covenant that was previously in the works but unable to be consumated. Is it the end event of the present day "Roadmap to Peace in the Middle East"? The Bible clearly tells us that events will come to pass that change the present political landscape.

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  I think most churches teach this. Are you sure WT has not ventured some liter-trash speculation on it?
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  asilentone

  I have never studied the Daniel Book at the Book Study, I skipped all of the studies.
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  Larsinger58

  I know some focus on a 7-year tribulation but not sure where they get that.

  But in Daniel 9, the 70 weeks are divided up into 62 weeks, 1 week and 7 weeks. That's 434, 7 and 49 years, respectively.

  So there is an isolated 7-year period implied by Daniel 9. Trick is to apply it correctly.

  Also, there were 7 days from the time when Noah went into the ark and God closed the door until the actual destruction took place.

  I'm wondering if that won't apply to our time, that there is a 7-year delay to when Armageddon actually starts?

  Let's see. Let's say December 21, 2012 the millennium is supposed to be here, up and running. That can't happen without the nations, the UN, being given its "time and a season" per prophecy, which is 15 months. But those days could be "cut short" like the first great tribulation was, which was the Holocaust. Anyway, 7 years from January 2013 is January 2006. If we juggle that by 15-18 months we back up to mid 2011 it takes us back to mid-2005. But I don't know of anything that happened significantly to mark those years as a 7-year cutoff.

  Now the kingdom sealing ended May 2008. That's a logistic closing of the Ark Door, but 7 years pushes us back to 2014-2015. I'm expecting Armageddon before that, frankly. Hraold Camping thinks May 2011 for Armageddon to start. Even so there has to be 15 months for the UN to rule first. So the countdown from May 2011, 15 months is May 2010 minus 3 months which is February 2010!!!

  But, the first great tribulation, the Holocaust, that was supposed to last 7 years from 1940-1947 were "cut short!" They were cut short 2.5 years. The Holocaust ended in the Spring of 1945 with the final end of the exile and the great tribulation ending November 30, 1947. We round to the season, thus from the Spring of 1945 to the Fall of 1947 is 2.5 years.

  If we shave off 2.5 years from 7 years we get 4.5 years!!!

  4.5 years from May 2008 is around November 2012, right? I have to this out to be sure.

  From May 2008 to May 2009 is 1 year

  From May 2009 to May 2010 is 2 years

  From May 2010 to May 2011 is 3 years

  From May 2011 to May 2012 is 4 years

  Six months (1/2 years) from May 2012 is November, 2012!!

  Hmmmm. That only leaves about a month for Armageddon!!

  That's a LOT of flesh to be eaten up in just a month.

  Oh well, speculation. I've enjoyed having this conversation with myself. I'm now going gambling! A friend sent me $50 for a Christmas present and I'm going to gamble the whole amount just to FEEL THE JOY of being rich for 10 minutes!!! A wonderful Christmas gift!!!

  LS
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  EndofMysteries

  It's a puzzle that is becoming increasingly easier to figure out. The book of revelation, there are probably 10+ other books in the bible which contain the same prophecy, or ones when all combined together give the correct understanding.

  AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!
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  Doug Mason

  Lars: "But in Daniel 9, the 70 weeks are divided up into 62 weeks, 1 week and 7 weeks. That's 434, 7 and 49 years, respectively."

  Daniel 9 actually has the 7 heptads before the 62 heptads. That's 7 and 62, respectively, not the other way around.

  I also suggest that these periods were allocated to the Exiles and to their descendants to get themselves into a right state before God, and that these periods had nothing to do with the ministry of Jesus Christ and had nothing to do with anyone subsequent to him.

  And the person who put an end to sacrifice also set up an abomination at the temple.

  Do I need to reproduce the words at Daniel 9 here?

  Doug
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  EndofMysteries

  I read somewhere, on some jewish forum, that to Jews, the hebrew word for week meant something like decade for them I believe. So I think 70 weeks would be like 700 years. I gotta check again, but on that forum, it ended right on the year Jesus was born I believe....
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  sooner7nc

  Don't forget about Daniel 12: 8, 9

  8 I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, "My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?"

  9 He replied, "Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

  I read this to mean that the wise will understand that they should shut their pieholes, quit trying to figure something out that their tiny intellect can't even begin to comprehend, and stop trying to shove it down everyone elses throats. I'm looking at you EOM and Lars.