Do Atheists Celebrate Christmas?

by believingxjw 89 Replies latest jw friends

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Scots,

    I'm trying to be honest here. If you think about it a person like myself has no fear of imaginary Deities. Plus if you add to that the fact,, that I used to buy into all that crap about a jealous Bible Deity that demands exclusive devotion or else your dead meat. You can see where I feel rather liberated from such a thought controlling beast,,invented by man to controll man,, thus the irreverence towards such an imaginary figure the belief of which has held so many in bondage.

    While I do apologize to a degree for my lack of reverence, I would like to remind our readers Atheist don't believe in God and neither do they fear him. Hey you should have read my little ditty that I wrote years back where I had Thor kick Jehovah's ass in the battle of the imaginary gods of old.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    JD,

    I think the only thing importantant to you is your own carnal desires and "getting one over" on everyone else. You're not worth the air you
    breathe.

    I beg to differ, for a fact I have some gold crowns that must be worth many times more than the air i breathe.

  • The Scotsman
    The Scotsman

    frankiespeakin

    I can understand where you are coming from.

    My simple point is just that not everyone has the same beliefs on JWN. (a fairly obvious point - I know!!!)

    I have had my fair share of debates with atheists/evolutionists on this board - but debate/discussion/sharing opinions - is a good thing.

    Just try and show a wee bit of respect for others beliefs - even if you think they are totally barking up the wrong tree entirely.

    I bet you used the direct approach in the ministry!!!!!

    Hope you had a good christmas - may the new year bring us all some happiness.......

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Scots,

    I suppose your right, but god dammit it's so hard to do when I haven't been in the position of belief in the Deity for so long I forget that people really get offended over slights in their imaginary friend. Anyway I do it in jest I hope you understand.

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    Scots,
    I suppose your right, but god dammit it's so hard to do when I haven't been in the position of belief in the Deity for so long I forget that people really get offended over slights in their imaginary friend. Anyway I do it in jest I hope you understand.

    I'm an athiest. Your lack of belief is not what's offensive.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    JD,

    You take things way too seriously in my opinion.

  • Aeiouy
    Aeiouy

    I just celebrated Christmas with my girlfriend and her family. None of them believe in Christ: That he was/is God/God's Son. We still celebrated. Nobody I work with (over 60 people) celebrated Christ's birth. We celebrated Christmas. Christmas doesn't mean what it did 50 years ago. Nobody I know puts up a tree and lights and gets presents etc. in honor of Christ. I would say that for at least half of Americans, it is a Federal holiday where one can get together with family and enjoy time off. So the assumption that one is celebrating Christ's birthday is off. Today Christmas and Christ's birthday are two seperate things. That's how I see it at least.

    Aeiouy

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Do atheists celebrate Christmas?

    Does the pope crap in the woods?
    Is a bear Catholic?
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

    Some questions are best unanswered.

  • HappyGuy
    HappyGuy

    I'm not a Christain, don't believe in the son of god fable. Don't care if Christmas is pagan or biblical or came from space aliens.

    I LOVE Christmas. It is a time to be with friends and family and share love and gifts. I love decorating my house to offset the gloomy winter.

    I could care less about small minded "Christains" who want to twist me into a doctrinal puzzle over whether December 25th is actually the imaginary son of god's birthday or not, or whether the Roman pagans celebrated the winter solstice on dec 25th and then some Pope stole their holiday and made it into a "Christain" holidy. I DON"T CARE.

    Merry Christmas!!!!

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Believe,

    So, who is more deluded the A) man who believes and celebrates or B)the man who does not believe but celebrates the birth of God's Son anyway...a
    God he does not believe in?

    I pick A) the man who believes and celebrates because he has not done his research and has accepted the story about a virgin who got pregnant by God and had his child that grew up and went around his country preforming miracles of which there is no proof. That is certainly more towards the delusional way of thinking than the B) man that don't believe and still celebrates,, because the non believer needs proof to believe in a wild story about a child being God's son and being born without intercourse from a man and then later in life preforming all sorts of miracles. I really think this is a no brain er about who is delusional or who has the greater capacity or inclination towards being delusional.

    Which man has more integrity?

    Need more information,, which can not be deduced from a simple belief and unbelief celebrators illustration. The nonbeliever-celebrator may have way more integrity towards things that are way more important than a celebration of a mythological virgin birth in a stable, to such a man this is a trivial and not worth the effort to display personal actions which betray personal beliefs. He may see it as not that important and not an integrity issue as you feel so strongly it is.

    Which man lives according to his belief and conscience?

    Both men do. Belief or nonbelief in the factual origins of a celebration has nothing to do with living as one believes if one celebrates with full knowledge of the originating falsehood he merely doesn't believe it to be true and for whatever reason he believes it better to celebrate than not to celebrate. Both men are thus living according to beliefs and conscience.

    To celebrate tells your neighbors you believe. If you don't
    believe why not tell the world by not celebrating? Or is that too hard to do?

    I see your whole argument is resting on a false assumption that your neighbors have some inherent right to know your personal business. News flash! "it is none of your neighbors business what you believe", which I think trumps your neighbors have a right to know assumption.

    And as far as your suggestion to tell the world your personal business well that seems a little ridiculous, and a wee bit pretentious.

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