How do you feel about street people asking you for money

by I quit! 61 Replies latest jw friends

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    Here is the scoop in Canada

    NO ONE needs to be pan-handling. We have a social support system where every person gets an income - even the homeless - especially the homeless.

    In some places a person cannot collect welfare unless they have an address. But in Canada most provinces have fixed this by allowing people to pick their checks up in social service offices or at homeless shelters. So not getting welfare isn't an excuse to be begging.

    Some provinces give more than others, some cities give more depending on the standard of living in that area. In some places where they know a person is a substance abuser or has mental health issues that limit their ability to budget properly the rent is paid directly to the landlord. I have a neighbor who doesn't receive her whole check at the beginning of the month leaving her with nothing by the end. They give it to her every other week which helps her not fall too far behind.

    Families and people who are sick or have been abused get priority for housing. Families get housing almost immediately.

    We don't have enough adequate housing. Single people are often sent to boarding houses which aren't the best atmosphere to be. But they aren't out on the street. If a person needs retraining for employment they get it free while they are getting welfare. And they get extra money for clothing so they can get a job when the training is done.

    We have homeless shelters. And while they might not be the best place to go they are shelter out of the weather. There is NO REASON why a person should be living on the street.

    Given the services available some people still choose to refuse the help offered, services paid by your tax dollars. So you pay to provide the services and then these people refuse it and stand on the corner asking you for money. Worse still are those who get the check and still stand on the corner begging you to pay yet again for something you have already paid for.

    Years ago there used to be a deaf man who went from one MacDonald's to the next showing a card and selling tiny pencils. Well since I know sign language I stopped him a couple of times and asked if he knew sign language and he would respond Yes. So I would ask him why is he begging. You never saw a man run so fast out of the restaurant towards his big car with 2 girls sitting in it waiting for him. It was a con. And because he tried to make people believe he was deaf and feel sorry for him they would open their wallets and literally empty their change into his waiting hands. I was furious.

    People with legitimate disabilities get a pretty good income to make them quite comfortable as long as they aren't wasting it. I'm one of them so I should know. I can't afford restaurants every month. I shop carefully. I sew many of my own clothes. So I am doing well.

    As far as I am concerned there is NO good reason to be handing money out to people in Canada when they already get it from your hard earned tax dollars.

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    I give when I can, sometimes I will buy food and give it to someone that has a sign Will Work for Food.

    I esp helped people when I first was fading.

    I felt like I could not do enough.

    In the hot summer, I always had bottled water that I would give to those standing on the corners.

    I've given money to beggers on the street when I worked downtown.

    I just can't refuse them if I have something to give.

    I once gave a lady money, she was at Wal-Mart as I was leaving. Something she had was alot of diamond rings on,

    my first thought was pawn them, but her sign said homeless, middle-aged, I got the feeling this was very humbling for her.

    When I first faded I gave a guy walking down the interstate a ride to his home 45 miles away, he just got out of jail and was going to walk all the way home,

    he did not ask, I offered. I fed him and took him home.

    I would not help if it did not make me feel good in some way. I have been helped so much at various times in my life, I only hopethat the people that helped me

    felt as good as I have when I have others. We are all in this together, I don't know, it's the way I see it.

    I feel like I could very easily be in that situation and would want to be treated kindly.

    purps

    edited to add: My son works downtown tomorrow, he is remodeling a Subway. He has to hire someone to sit in his work truck all day to watch his tools so they won't be stolen.

    I rather these people ask for what they need/want than steal.

  • zagor
    zagor

    If I have change and they look genuine I don't mind. Hell I've spent thousands on dollars in past on things that I knew were stupid to begin with yet I did them anyway. It takes guts (or a character of a person has to be crushed so much that one doesn't care) to sit there and beg. In fact most of them, at least here, are not only sitting, some play an instrument with a sign saying I'm homeless or alike, the other day I saw a guy drawing pictures on scrap paper. Heck, some of them were masterpieces. He was doing it to show he's ready to do something, anything but such are times and to people like that I really don't mind help. Hell I spend more money on Starbucks coffee lol

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    Interesting that there are two basic situations described. One is when you are in your car and someone with a sign stands next to you at a stop.

    Very different than walking down a busy downtown street (especially a lone female) and a filthy, scary looking individual blocks your way and asks for "help". These guys walk a fine line between mugging and begging.

    In either case, there is so much assistance available in most areas that there is no need to beg except for money to buy drugs, alcohol and tobacco.

    Portland is a bums paradise. Hot meals, clothing, medical and shelter are all available with no questions asked. There are also agencies that specialize in truly needy families with children.

    Donate to these organizations and you can pass up the beggars with a clear conscience.

  • ShirleyW
    ShirleyW

    Now for the New York City point of view, home of the subway, a beggars dream: since I ride the same train everyday to get into the city (Manhattan, I live in Queens, part of NYC also, but that's whatya callit when ya don't live in manhattan) for the past 20 plus years I'm quite familiar with the beggars that pick out their favorite subway route to beg on, so many stories don't know where to start! But will mention I remember seeing one of the old time beggars on the street not to far from where I live walking down the street, he just happened to be counting his money in a drunken stupor . . . . took out A WAD OF BILLS !! could of been ones, could've been twenty's but I mean a friggin' wad of bills he took out of his pocket, then they're was the couple about five or more years ago who claimed they were trying to bury their dead daughter, even had a death certificate they waved to the crowd . . . funny, always saw them for 2 or three years but always during the winter, hmmm, hope thegirl got a decent burial. Like I said in NYC city I could go on and on and on,

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa

    It takes guts (or a character of a person has to be crushed so much that one doesn't care) to sit there and beg.

    Thats what I think too.

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I've had people tell me they can easily rake in $30-50 a day pan-handling - that's tax free money out of your not so tax free income

    My above post does not mention that I give to the food bank, and the local community services that provide help to those who need it as well as the the church that owns the building I live in.

  • Mr. Monday Night
    Mr. Monday Night

    One Time, I was inside an ATM machine room in the downtown area and saw a homeless man sleeping there all alone. I was originally going to take $60.00 from my account, instead I took $80. I gave the homeless man $20 while he was laying there and I put the rest of my money in my pocket.

    Ciao,

    MMN

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    I'm glad your grandson wasn't successful. We had a family member who was able pull it off about three years ago.

    Oh I!QUIT!!I was so saddened to read that... Yes I too think the Wt has something to do with such deep
    depression they want to end life (((HUG)))

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    If I have spare change, I'll give it. If I have a spare Snickers Bar, I'll give that. Last winter I gave a homeless man $10.00 and told him to go buy some liquor to keep himself warm. I also advised him to hit the McDonald's dollar menu for grub.

    I've heard people remark, "Get a job, ya bum." What those people need to realize is the "bum" has a job. His job is to remind us how fortunate we are to have food, clothing and shelter on a cold, wet night; how blessed we are not to be suffering from mental illness, or how we had enough foresight not to become addicted to alcohol or drugs.

    And let's not forget his most important job: Giving others somebody to feel superior to.

Share this

Google+
Pinterest
Reddit