by paul from cleveland 128 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Paul said, "I don't think there is anything that could convince me that my parents don't love me."
I didn't intend to suggest the don't. But it is quite a leap from "Momma loves me" to "There's an invisible man in the sky, and he loves me too."
There isn't, and he doesn't.
But it is quite a leap from "Momma loves me" to "There's an invisible man in the sky, and he loves me too."
There isn't, and he doesn't.
The fact that love exists at all in this cold dark universe, even if it were just from my parents, is miraculous in itself. Don't you agree? This love lets me leave the door open to the possibility of a loving God. However, convincing arguments can be made either way. I think we just see what we want to see. It's possible that our mental filters just reject any evidence that contradicts our desired notion (including mine, of course).
Also, my intent isn't to try to convince anyone of anything. Whatever anyone is comfortable believing is fine with me. My initial question was just asking what the "good part" of atheism is. I didn't understand it but I have a much better idea now.
Obviously I don't agree, Paul.
What you call "love" is a neuro-chemical part of our survival mechanism. Neglecting or eating the young 'uns is not a good survival strategy for the gene, and the gene must be served! Familial nurturing is not unique to haman beings. Fish, birds, and some reptiles do it, even if they don't send each other Valentine's Day cards.
(NOTE: February 14 th approaches! Get flowers, cards and candy!)
> God or the non-existence of God it has to be taken on faith since both positions are unknowable and unprovable.
Do you consider it a matter of faith that the Invisible Pink Unicorn on Pluto does not exist?
Do you consider it a matter of faith that the Invisible Pink Unicorn on Pluto does not exist?
Please read my previous post (toward the bottom of page 4) as to why the "santa claus" argument is nonsensical to me.
What you call "love" is a neuro-chemical part of our survival mechanism.
Are you saying that you don't believe that anyone loves you?
Are you mocking my religion???? Are you saying that the Invisible Pink Unicorn is as silly an idea as Santa Clause????
Dear Paul
your feelings, as important as they are, have nothing to do with a logical argument. You cannot reason god into existence using emotionally loaded language like;
"This love lets me leave the door open to the possibility of a loving God."
That's not to say that your feelings are not valid, just that they are irrelevant when trying to assess reality.
Nic'
your feelings, as important as they are, have nothing to do with a logical argument.
I've had logical arguments made to me that are pretty convincing both ways. Both for atheism and theism. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I can see both points of view. I was just more or less curious as to what is it about atheism that people find comforting. So many people say that atheism "set them free" in a sense. I'm just trying to understand why that is. It seems so cold to me. I'm just hoping that it's not true.
I'm not using my feelings as any kind of proof for anyone else. Agnostic Theism is just my intuition, not a provable fact of course. Just like Agnostic Atheism ,I believe, is an intuition. Gnostic Atheism, however, is another story. Is anyone here a Gnostic Atheist?
The fact that love exists at all in this cold dark universe, even if it were just from my parents, is miraculous in itself. Don't you agree?
Hmmmm I would never describe life like that. I think we live in a beautiful world for the most part.
