That is a very fundamentalist view there Terry.
The JEHOVAH game (a modern fetish)
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cyberjesus
So what about the Game :-)
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Terry
A Standard is the first line of defense against corruption.
That is a very fundamentalist view there Terry.
Hmmmmm
How else can I say it?
Think of it like virginity.
You can't almost be a virgin. There is no sort of.
Also, look at it from the aspect of "setting things straight."
When you need a straight line you need a tool called a straightedge.
If you place a straight edge on a sheet of drawing paper and trace along the edge with a pencil the only result you can get EXACTLY CONFORMS to the straightness of the edge.
A nick, bend, curve, flaw on a STRAIGHT EDGE automatically completely nullifies its purpose.
This isn't------partially true-----
it isn't--------approximately true-----
this is absolute.
You can see this, I'm sure.
The Bible is purported to be a Straight Edge. It either is or it is not.
It is not.
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Perry
Contrarily, there is considerable indication the Bible is a mess as a document.
Of course, research has PROVEN just the opposite. Terry can you comment on the dead sea scrolls showing no variation after 1000 years of copying? Can you comment on the fact that over 99% of all ancient NT manuscripts show near perfect agreement?
How can you possibly make the claims that you do with a straight face in light of this overwhelning evidence? You should be ashamed of yourself.
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BurnTheShips
Contrarily, there is considerable indication the Bible is a mess as a document.
The Bible is certainly not a "mess as a document". It is what it is, a collection of documents written over a wide span of time and by different people and considered important historically for Christians. That said, if you try to use a hammer where you should be using a screwdriver, you are going to have a mess on your hands. The Bible has been often misused. It was not ever intended as a complete compendium of Christian teaching, merely a collection of supporting documents. It became a summa to certain groups of people during the Reformation. To use it as a summa, is a mistake. You still view the Bible as a comprehensive summa, which is a very JW/fundamentalist view, and you base your arguments on this view. For people that view the Bible as I do, you are engaging in a straw man argument. It isn't either/or unless you are fundamentalist, there is a great deal of grey area between the two extremes.
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PSacramento
I think the very reason we see "conflicting views" or "contridictions" in the bible, especially from the OT to the NT, is because the bible was always a work in progress as is God's meesage as it was being told by different people with different views during different times.
I don't believe in absolutes.
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Terry
Contrarily, there is considerable indication the Bible is a mess as a document.
Of course, research has PROVEN just the opposite. Terry can you comment on the dead sea scrolls showing no variation after 1000 years of copying? Can you comment on the fact that over 99% of all ancient NT manuscripts show near perfect agreement?
How can you possibly make the claims that you do with a straight face in light of this overwhelning evidence? You should be ashamed of yourself.
"Attention pasengers! The is the captain of the Titanic speaking. 99% of the ship is intact and watertight! A few small holes were punched in the hull and that's nothing to worry about! The scandal mongers going around trying to instill panic should be ashamed of themselves. Go back to partying dudes!"
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Perry
Terry,
So, which is it? A "mess of a document" or a "few" easily discernible and easily fixed "holes".
We'll get you straightened out yet.
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Perry
I don't believe in absolutes.
Absolutely!
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wobble
If the bible was the Word of God, he would have preserved it,free from error. No scholar believes what we have today is free from error.
What little we have from the Qumran community( DS Scrolls) is interesting to textual critics, but of course these are not autographs, but copies of copies.
Even the "celebrated Scholars" of the W. T maintain that the text has been badly corrupted, hence the need for them to put in so many "corrections "
The Bible is as equally inspired as the Holy Quran, the writers were moved, (inspired), by a love for God, but both show little sign of input from anywhere outside of the writers imagination.
Love
Wobble