Just read Crisis of Conscience - Malawi/Mexico double standard

by jambon1 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • jambon1
    jambon1

    All I can say is - WOW.

    What a bunch of absolutely hypocritical, double tongued shithouses the Governing Body really are.

    Reading the letters to & from the different branches/governing body on 'alternative service' made me so angry.

    An organisation that is utterly rotten from the top down. These men have blood on their hands.

    Filth!

  • lepermessiah
    lepermessiah

    That chapter hit me like a hammer too......

    The WTBS still LOVES to bring up those Malawi Martyrs.

    What genuine Christians!

    Hard to believe Jesus would have $hit-canned the one man who truly had a conscience if this was HIS organization!

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    Almost equalling it (the basic dual standard precept) is the fact that R Franz reveals how a Majority of the GB could vote for a rule, but be over-ridden because it was not a CONTROLLING Majority of what, 2/3?

    Really shows they were being guided by holy spirit in such cases, huh?

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    It sucks doesn't it? The Mexican Witnesses were being allowed to do something that was getting the Malawis jailed. They were even being allowed to bribe in Mexico to get their cards. Sheesh!!! Was it stupidity on their part, or duplicity? Or did they genuinely screw up, and then not have the decency to go back and change their policy because it would undermine their authority? That's what I'd like to know.

    BTS

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    What a bunch of absolutely hypocritical, double tongued shithouses the Governing Body really are.

    Indeed. Actually, that description is perhaps too charitable.

    It's nice to hear reports of more people reading this book.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    it is scandalous, The G/B are blood guilty,filthy lying scum. Just imagine how many of those Dubs were raped,tortured and murdered, all the while those peado enablers sitting like kings having everything bar wiping their own ass's done for them. If there is a place called Hell it is where they are destined.

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    I guess we should remember that this Mexico/Malawi stuff really got going under Knorr/Franz pre-Governing Body...but of course the GB even until now has done NOTHING to redress the issue.

    Franz hints in the book that the real difference here was that the Malawians were dirt poor, but the society had quite a bit of property in Mexico and did not want to risk it. I believe that.

    Let us not forget also that this was a dual standard between Mexican witness young men of draft age and U.S. witness young men of draft age - with many U.S. witnesses going to jail over the draft as they could not even claim conscientous objector status according to the society of the day. That of course was later changed, and of course it was blamed back on the jailed witnesses as being all of their own free judgement.

    RIGHT. Just like blood transfusions.

  • dissed
    dissed

    I still have not read the book. I got it for my wife and she shared key thoughts for me. The Malawi/Mexican issues blew her mind. She had written letters to the Malawian govt.

    Usually I read a book on vacations, (fiction). I love to read a good book, while sunning in the sand on the beach.

    COC doesn't have vacation written all over it, way to serious to read for fun.

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    jambon, I think you should tell us how you REALLY feel. lol

    But, ya....finding out about that situation was a real eye-opener for me, too.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    This was the part of Crisis of Conscience that left me so disturbed that I felt sick inside. I was reading it in .pdf form at work, and just had to get up and go for a walk, if I remember correctly. I read the Yearbook in the year they wrote about the Malawi experiences (it was in the '90s, I think). Finding out that those people suffered for no reason...people died, man. People died. There's no going back once you read about that kind of stuff. I always wondered what it could be that would make folks turn against the organization so thoroughly. Now I know. Thoroughly.

    Being responsible for such an atrocity would ordinarily cause such men to be tried for war crimes. But since it was all under the guise of religion and was the 'personal decision' of each individual Malawian victim involved, the boys in Brooklyn get off scot-free. Men like this should be fought till our dying day.

    SD-7

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