JW disrupt a funeral service (Watch and Comment) (page 4)

Wasanelder Once

Jedidiah was a disfellowshipped apostate. They can choose whether or not to go to the funeral that is not held in a church and conducted by a clergyman, it's a conscience thing, but to stay for an apostate who spouts apostate teachings such as "Kingdom in your heart" is too much. Satan has entered among them. They HAD to leave. Twits. W.Once

boyzone

Yeah I got the feeling it was the "kingdom of God in your heart" comment that got butts off chairs. Totally outta order for JW's to make a scene like that at gramma's funeral, I thought Jedediah was talking pretty reasonable.

Typical JW self-righteousness of the "letsbeobnoxiousforJehovah" class,

TheOldHippie

"I find it very hard to believe that any denominational church would turn away Jehovah's Witnesses. However, their own Watchtower organization FORBIDS and DISCOURAGES them to attend any religious service (weddings and funerals) or face disfellowshipping. Gotta love that "disfellowshipping" statement before they storm out."

Oh oh - let us keep it just a tiny bit truthful, shall we? Forbidding to attend weddings and funerals, or else you face df'ing? No no no.

SirNose586

I've never heard a more arrogant speech at a funeral, nor a more boorish display of manners from the JWs. I love how everyone in that funeral home will remember the JWs for being complete jerks. Clinton and the grandson said very nice things; the daughter had nothing but a lecture to give everyone.

Ugly teachings produces ugly people.

WTWizard

And I thought disabling a set of Christmas lights at work was bad enough! (Even though I could just as easily re-enable them.)

That was just plain rude to disrupt a funeral to force one's beliefs on a worldly person. And, at this time, it is beyond rude. Who is to decide whether they are going to heaven, to hell, are going to be resurrected, or there is no hope? This is what happens when the witlesses attend worldly relatives' funerals--and try pushing their beliefs on everyone else. I hope none of the worldly people present at the funeral ever accept the witlesses after such an offensive display of intolerance of others' viewpoints. This didn't look like it was held at a Kingdumb Hell--the speaker looked like a regular minister, not a witless.

TardNFeatheredJW

@ TheOldHippie -

Let's keep this honest, shall we? A "suggestion" that it is "not recommended" leaves a person open for being considered spiritually sick, weak, or otherwise compromised. It will end up being a matter for the BOE's conscience if a single person complains. Could it lead to DF? Absolutely, if the person rubs the BOE the wrong way during a "counseling" session. To be very strict, a JW shall NOT involve themselves with interfaith movements or other church religious services.

See below, do they mandate DF? NO. Is it possible? Certainly. You, sir, should keep it honest.

Watchtower 2002 15th May Questions from Readers "Would it be advisable for a true Christian to attend a funeral or a wedding in a church?"

'Our taking part in any form of false religion is displeasing to Jehovah and must be avoided. A church funeral is a religious service.... How unwise to expose oneself to such pressure!'

Each individual Jehovah's Witness when deciding for themselves would 'respond to the directions of the slave as we would to the voice of God' (W57 15th June p370).

"If the occasion involves a close fleshly relative, there may be additional family pressures. In any case, a Christian must carefully weigh all the factors involved. Under certain circumstances he or she may conclude that no difficulties would arise from attending a church funeral or wedding as an observer. However, the circumstances may be such that by attending, the likely injury to one's own conscience or to that of others would outweigh the possible benefits of being present. Whatever the situation, the Christian should make sure that the decision will not interfere with his preserving a good conscience before God and men."

EDIT: I do know of one man who was inactive for years, then got married at a church of "christendom". He was DF'd for doing that.

Think About It

The WTS has caused so much unnecessary harm to normal family relationships with their intolerant view of such things as funerals, weddings, shunning, etc.

Think About It

sacolton

In my ten years, it was frowned to attend a "false religion" service. True, it depends how asshole-ish the BOE will be if they discovered you attended a funeral or wedding in a Christendom church.

TardNFeatheredJW

I apologize if I seem abrupt, but the weasel wording of "suggestions" then hearing from JW or even some not-yet-deprogrammed xdub that "let's be honest there's no df-ing for this or that" line. That's the key to the subtle mind control cult. They don't have to write "YOU WILL BE DF FOR THIS OFFENSE", they just need to suggest that it's not favored by JW Borg, and say "conscience" matter, which will imply to others that your conscience is not yet developed if you decide to go against the grain. Then, if you "stumbled" some mindless tool, and you grab the attention of the elders and don't kiss their a$$ properly, you will eventually get marked, then sooner or later the day will come.

sacolton

I think the term "auto disassociation" is used if they want to say you are guilty of inter-faith association. The second you step into another church, you are on thin-ice for possible auto disassociation. Of course, you'll still be called into a Judicial Committee to remind you how evil and Satanic the Christendom religion is and "bad association" blah blah blah ... before they make it official.

JW disrupt a funeral service (Watch and Comment)

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