Just ONE FACT, that's all I ask, JUST ONE.....

by Terry 56 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    First of all, Welcome Bronny.

    Second of all, and I mean this with all seriousness and concern, not flippantly - Get help. Run, do not walk to your phone and call a mental health specialist, get an appointment, and find out what is going on. You are not 'possessed', or being tormented by Satan. You have voices in your head that need to be addressed by trained professionals. Seriously. Please.

    Jeff

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR

    Bronny.

    I will assume that you are genuine and this, your first post, is not a wind up, though I have my doubts.

    You say," At the time I believed in Aliens
    (I dont anymore - they arent in the Bible)"

    An alien is any being that is not from your country or not of this world. This would include angels, demons, gods and fairies.

    I too used to be troubled by demons until I stopped believing in them.

    I too lived in fear of God until I stopped believing in Him.

    Fear of unseen beings is created in in our minds by our imagination.

    I won't go on because it is unlikely you will find the help you need on this site. You need professional help.

    By the way - I am not really a gladiator!

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    Hey Terry, have fun with this page full of "scientific bibical facts":

    http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

  • donny
    donny

    It foretold the future production of a Honda product.

    King James BibleThese all continued with one Accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

  • Nephilim
    Nephilim

    Gerard,

    I like how they start off with Dinosaurs. Everyone loves dinosaurs!!! Great find... my faith went up 200 points. I don't know who this Terry guy thinks he is...

  • Nephilim
    Nephilim

    Bronny,

    My one rule for people who say that they've talked to demons is that I need the names of the demons in question. Please give me at least a couple of the names of the ones that are bothering you and I'll do my best to get them to back off.

    Also, don't listen to them... Lithium doesn't help and it just makes you gain weight.

  • Terry
    Terry

    I like how they start off with Dinosaurs. Everyone loves dinosaurs!!! Great find... my faith went up 200 points. I don't know who this Terry guy thinks he is...

    I myself am a dinosaur!

    And speaking of which......

    If you ask any ANY Jehovah's Witness about dinosaurs they will GET ANGRY with you!

    That is a no-man's-land you are not allowed to enter conversationally.

    "I'll wait on Jehovah to tell me in the New Order." Is all you'll get.

    As far as Demons are concerned. I was bothered by demonic manifestations until I stopped believing in them. Then, I started realizing what those manifestation really were.

    Example: The sheets crawling off my bed at nigh. Creepy, huh? Turns out it was unconscious RLS (restless limb syndrome). I shake my foot the way a dog shakes its tail. The foot moved the sheet. I became aware of the sheet while being totally unaware of my own foot moving it.

    See how simple? Yet, I was in a living nightmare crying aloud to Jehovah! Why? I BELIEVED IN DEMONS.

    I should have been praying to my foot to stop shaking!

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento
    Even Jesus' disciples didn't wash their hands before eating.

    The jews had a "ritual" for washing their hands before eating, I forget how much times they had to do it.

    That part of Matthew ( and Mark and Luke), where Jesus and his disciples are chastized for NOT washing their hands in the ritual is mentioned to One of Jesus's many "statements" against the rules of the OT:

    15 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don’t wash their hands before they eat!”

    3 Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’a and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’b 5 But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,’ 6 he is not to ‘honor his father c ’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7 You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

    8 “ ‘These people honor me with their lips,

    but their hearts are far from me.

    9 They worship me in vain;

    their teachings are but rules taught by men.’d

    10 Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’ ”

    12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

    13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides. e If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

    15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

    16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’ 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him

  • Terry
    Terry

    ....and therefore.....ummmm......what?

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento

    Therefore do NOT read more into something that you need to.

    Its not that they didn't know antyhign about germs and they probably DID wash their hands, the pharisees probably didn't see them, the fact is Jews had a ritual/tradition for washing their hands (supposedly), Jesus didn't rebuke them because his disciples may or may not have washed their hands, he chose to apply a lesson and the lesson was that the traditions and rituals instill by Man are just that and carry no greater weight than anything else man chooses to do.

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