Memorial: Where's the Proof?

cameo-d

The JWs are correct in their opposition concerning the xmas holiday and that there is evidence both scriptural and ancedotal that Jesus was not born in the dead of winter on Dec. 25.

But what I don't get is why do they go along with a Crucifixion memorial which coincides with the time of Moses Passover? Is there any real proof that Jesus was crucified at this particular time period?

Yeah, I know about the legend that passover was "foreshadowing" the ultimate sacrifice of the lamb.....but this is contrived information.

Where is the proof that Jesus was crucified at Passover? And how can you know that the JWs are not falling in league with some aspects of Jewish observances?

cofty

There is no "proof" that Jesus did or said anything but assuming you are going to accept the bible as an authority then the synoptic gospels it makes it very clear that he died around Passover time. See Matt 26:17 for example

cameo-d

How is it that they could drink wine at passover? Wine is made with yeast.

cofty

The unleavened bread was originally to remind Israel of the haste with which they fled Egypt, no time to "prove" the dough. The link between leaven and sinfulness came later, so no problem with the wine.

Wine became a feature of the meal later and it was not just a sip, I cant remember the details but there were at least 4 cups of wine during the evening with specific psalms sung in between each one. Sounds like fun actually.

cameo-d

Gee, nobody knows the real truth about all that. All these years and people still just accept the story at face value.

Guess it's time to tell you all the story of Black Magic Moses.

Mad Dawg

When the wine is bottled it would be filtered to remove the yeast.

Black Sheep

How is it that they could drink wine at passover? Wine is made with yeast.

Does the Bible always make sense?

Is there any real proof that Jesus was crucified at this particular time period?

You can discount any period when figs were ripe. Does that help?

	Jesus Curses the Fig Tree

cofty

Guess it's time to tell you all the story of Black Magic Moses.

Oh my god here we go..........

allelsefails

I thought this was interesting. John's Gospel clearly shows that Jesus was killed the day BEFORE the passover, not on passover. This seems to contradict the synoptic gospels. The whole idea of Jesus' ministry being 3-1/2 years is based on the number of passovers mentioned in the Gospels - which never claim to be a complete record of his time on Earth. Jesus may have been much older when he died than most think (It was said this man is not even 50 - how can he teach us? by the Pharisees). He may have preached for 6-10 years or God only knows. There are no reliable dates in the scriptures. Even his birth year is contradicted between Matt. and Luke. Good question - lots of research out there.

allelsefails

I also think it is funny that you say JWs are correct about Xmas. They quote the Catholic encyclopedia to disprove Xmas as the date of Jesus birth because Catholics have always known it was an adopted date and has nothing to do with Jesus "birthday". It is just the date they picked, and that is OK with them.

Memorial: Where's the Proof?

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