Random, bored musings

by sd-7 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    At a certain point, you just get tired of Watchtower-bashing. I kinda miss the awesomeness my life had when things were more normal. When I didn't know about being in a cult. I could sit there at home and watch movies to my heart's content, and nobody in particular harassed me so long as I made 6-10 hours a month--except the Thought Police checking up on me to see if I'd stopped looking at porn. Which I hadn't.

    Now, it's like...all of that normalcy is gone. It was a twisted kind of normal, but...at least...I don't know. Now, I'm married, broke as a joke, and can't do anything beyond go to sleep once I get home from work. Can barely afford to rent movies, much less buy 'em. I miss that.

    Now that I'm out, what now? I don't know how to enjoy life. My wife...it's so hard to hang in there with her. She believes in it. It's hard to even listen to her about mundane things because I'm so fixated on and disturbed by having spent my whole life in a cult. It still seems so impossible. How could it happen to me?

    I did think of starting a ministry of my own, maybe hitting up YouTube or something, maybe trying to team up with the 4Jehovah.org ministry team--except I don't accept all their ideas, so...probably can't happen. I'm overwhelmed with a wife and kid who both refuse to just sit still and chill out. I can't seem to concentrate. My wife tells me 5 different things and I can never remember them or it just doesn't register. I ended up late for work because she told me to take her somewhere before work and I had no memory at all of her saying that, I mean none. What's wrong with me? Do I not care? Am I so distracted by being here or by realizing I'm in a cult that I literally can't think about anything else?

    I don't want to be self-centered. I'm just...exhausted all the time, unable to give my family the quality time they deserve. I'm bored with this job and the commute is way too long. But I don't know if it's a good idea to look for anything else in these uncertain times. A bird in the hand, they say?

    I think I'm having a bit of Stockholm syndrome. I could choose to appeal the elders' decision if I do it by Sunday. But how the heck could I demonstrate repentance? I'd have to acknowledge the 'faithful slave class' and that the JWs are 'God's organization'. But my logic circuits went mad trying to go along with this cancerous thinking. I couldn't recruit people into this. The moral responsibility involved in that is staggering. It would be very wrong for me to go back, even for family. Family doesn't know yet, most of them. Don't know how to tell them.

    Wondering if it's the only way I'll get to have intimacy with my wife again. It's been almost a month since the last marital due, and...we've not been married that long (almost 4 months). Now the kid's in bed with us these days. My wife doesn't even want me to touch her anymore. I'm usually bowled over with surprise if she gives me a hug. I'm supposed to talk to her about my need for affection from her, and maybe...I haven't done much for her needs apart from being the sole provider and a father-figure to the kid. But maybe I'm not much of a real husband. I come home so tired that I can barely eat dinner. I keep forgetting stuff she tells me or it's like I don't remember her telling me about it at all. I want to listen to her. I want to.

    Is there an unconscious part of me that's ignoring her because she's the one who turned me in, set me up for being expelled? I don't know if I still have resentment over that betrayal. I know she didn't see it as a betrayal, and never will. ...

    What I find particularly sad is those moments in the day when I daydream about the love we used to share, used to make together. I'm fantasizing about my own wife, as if she's the unattainable girl I fell for in high school.

    I wanted to take her to see the orchids that are on display. Or to that restaurant we never got to go to for our 'honeymoon', which consisted mostly of shopping for necessary household items and one meal at a Chinese restaurant.

    I'm asking for a lot of advice, aren't I? I shouldn't be. I'm just feeling a little down today, remembering...how the men I most respected in my life now treat me as a non-person. Perhaps I only feared them. But brothers don't fear each other. Not in a normal relationship. Only in an abusive one.

    Was it really a cult? Why did they make up all this stuff? Nobody's really getting rich off of it. Is it just a power thing? Or just something that people inherited from the original power-mongers?

    I messed up my life so badly. I hope my wife leaves me someday. I didn't deserve to get her back. I wasn't up to the challenge.

    I was supposed to stay morally clean to make this stand, not be put on trial for the very things I vowed I would never do in life. All those tears my wife cried, she cried because of me, because I didn't treat her as a sister with chasteness. What right do I have to criticize corruption in this religion when I'm no less dirty than they are?

    I'm no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I don't think I ever really earned the title anyway. It was my mother's religion, and I just went along with it.

    I can't even say goodbye to my family because I don't know how. No matter what, I'll always be the villain. I deserve to be alone. It doesn't matter if those people think I'm unhappy or not. I was unhappy amongst them, and I'm still unhappy. The only thing that's changed is my religious affiliation.

    There's nothing left for them to take because it doesn't matter what they take. I wasn't a friend to anyone on the inside. And probably only a rare few were genuinely friends with me. The only one I know of who fits firmly into that category is dead now. He died never knowing what was really going on, in fact died as a zealous proclaimer of the Society's version of the good news.

    I can't help wondering if this knowledge was worth its price. I may never produce an heir to it, with my wife. She will never allow me to teach her daughter, and any other children we might have, she would claim as belonging to her, and to the religion. My knowledge, the years of struggles to reach this point--all of that will die with me. Rendered irrelevant in the stream of time, just another speck of lint on its immense fabric.

    For that it matters, I might as well have believed it. Because none of what we do here really matters. All the good, it's just a band-aid on a cancer. ...

    I'm sorry. Just feeling a little depressed today. No point in it. You folks, and many others, have real problems. You all take care.

    --SD-7

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    Wow.

    A sisterly

    Hang in there.

    Sylvia

    Edited: Have you interacted with TryingToExit?

    He may be better able to help a brotha' out.

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    I read your whole post. Does it help to write it down and organize your thoughts? I hope so.

    Wish I had a magic wand to wave over you, friend.

  • dgp
    dgp

    Sd-7, I think it's easy to see what is going on. You wish you didn't have to deal with all the heartbreaking situations you face only because you're not a witness in good standing. You wish for the time when things were easier. And, who could not understand your longing for having your wife back?

    I'm not sure if going back to the religion would be the solution for you. I know it's a big decision, and also one only you can make.

    I have also felt that I should simply give up and get into the society. I know I could have the witness I love if I did that. The problem is, I don't think this is a true religion, and I would lose so many other people if I went into it. What would it be like to have her under those conditions? They wouldn't let me just go through the motions. I realized of that today. You can' t just get baptized, place a few magazines and that's it. I wouldn't be able to live a double life, either. I think I can understand you perfectly well, though I approach this thing from the other side. I also daydream of times when things were nice because I hadn't made it clear that I loved her. The minute that was clear, the problems began. If I hadn't found sites like these one, probably I would be in the religion now. Was the knowledge worth it? My head says yes. My heart says no.

    What you're feeling is normal. It's called human nature and love for your wife and your friends. It's too bad that apparently we can't change those things. And, believe me, I wish I could.

  • snowbird
  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Very insightful, dgp. Thanks, Sylvia (for helping a brotha' out, and for recognizing that in this case, Toby cannot "be good [slave] for massa"). Palmtree67--if you do find that magic wand, hope you'll let me know.

    I want to undo it all. But the evidence just proves to be an avalanche. I can't ignore it, no matter how hard I'd like to try. I'll just have to face up to the facts, you know?

    Thank you all, again.

  • Brocephus
    Brocephus

    You could:

    1. Find a real church of your preference and make new friends

    2. Start drinking and hitting on loose and immoral women with out losing all your friends (your wife might leave)

    3. Start gambling

    4. Get into politics

    5. Volunteer and do charity work

    6. Learn to play an instrument and join a cover band and play some shows downtown.

    7. Catch up on rated R movies.

    8. Masturbate guilt free (with or without porn)

    9. Discovery your bi-sexuality (please use condoms)

    10. Wish your kids a happy birthday.

    11. Make career desicions based on what you want to do with your life and for your family, not how many hours of field service you can give.

    As you can see you got plenty of stuff to do, Mister. Get to it!

  • nugget
    nugget

    SD7 I read your post, I hope it helped to put it in writing sometimes it does. You sound dpressed, the lack of energy and the way the problems seem overwhelming are very familiar. Remember as far as your wife goes, both of you have been through a stressful situation and both need time to recuperate. She may want to feel loved and forgiven for throwing you to the wolves. At the moment you are tired and stressed and in need of comfort and lack the energy for romance and She is using the child as a safety blanket.

    If your job commute is exhausting there is no harm looking about for a new position closer to home, that being said you need to sort out your mental state before facing the rigor of interview. If you haven't seen a therapist yet then please make an appointment and go. They can help you see things more clearly.

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    Toby cannot "be good [slave] for massa").

    LOL.

    You can also start researching our rich heritage.

    You may be pleasantly surprised at what you'll find.

    On her good days, my deceased mother used to sing this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Black_Joe

    The best to you, my brother and friend.

    Sylvia

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    Brocephus, I'm just going to go with one at a time on that one:

    1. Find a real church of your preference and make new friends

    Having a bit of trouble trusting religious establishments right now. Not interested in getting taken to the cleaners again by a different group of self-righteous sons of dishes.

    2. Start drinking and hitting on loose and immoral women with out losing all your friends (your wife might leave)

    Hmm...I've thought of drinking, but don't want to risk waking up next to someone with no memory of what happened. That, and I wouldn't have the courage to hit on a woman--didn't when I was single and sure as heck don't now! I happen to think my wife is pretty hot, at least, so...the prospect of eventually resuming the marital due is enough to keep hope alive a little bit longer. I'm not good with the ladies. Only other woman who paid me attention was 12 years older and an unemployed alcoholic. Sure, I've looked in all the wrong places, but...I'm scared of bars and the like, terrified. A beautiful woman overrides my logic sensors, so...I'd rather stay away from them, too.

    3. Start gambling

    Dude. I am debt up to my eyeballs. Not happenin'.

    4. Get into politics

    Look, since I can't see Russia from my house, I don't think I've got a real shot in that line of work. Besides, they've already got one black man in the business. They've got a quota for that, you know.

    5. Volunteer and do charity work

    Not a bad idea. But I've no time or energy for that. Barely got the money to pay other people to do charity work in my place. But it's something I'll definitely think about.

    6. Learn to play an instrument and join a cover band and play some shows downtown.

    I don't know about that one. It just feels like a Spider-Man 3 kind of thing to do. And that didn't turn out well for Tobey Maguire. It would be nice, though. But again, time, energy, etc...

    7. Catch up on rated R movies.

    Well, after seeing "Watchmen", I don't think I can deal with R-rated movies anymore. Just too disturbing for me. Too much cursing. Besides, can't watch that with the wife and kid there all the time. It'd be a bad influence.

    8. Masturbate guilt free (with or without porn)

    Again, wife & kid are there. Not so simple. I admit, though, if they're not there, sometimes...I've been known to take some self-liberties. But being married, I don't feel right about porn anyway. (Besides, my wife provides me with occasional doses when she walks around in her underwear or comes out of the shower. If only she would grant me a private photo shoot, we'd be set...)

    9. Discovery your bi-sexuality (please use condoms)

    Good Lord, no! I don't have nothin' else to add to that. I like women, women, and more women, okay? Ewwwwww...

    10. Wish your kids a happy birthday.

    The only kid around was born into a cult. Ain't nothin' happy about that, trust me, I know. But um...I guess every year if she gets smarter and more creative, maybe there's hope. Still...never been into birthdays, probably never will be. Rather just spoil the kid all year round, if possible.

    11. Make career desicions based on what you want to do with your life and for your family, not how many hours of field service you can give.

    I never really had that problem, as I always hated field service. Never made my decisions based on that crap. So...it works out.

    Thank you.

    --sd-7

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