good one.
If someone ask you personally "Are you an apostate?", How would you answer them?
by asilentone 48 Replies latest jw friends
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Poztate
Nope.... Not Me....
Poztate....
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Terry
If you change religions by changing your mind and moving on to something "better", then, technically you are an Apostate.
Consequently, unless you are born a JW you have to abandon another religion to become a JW.
So, being an apostate is a good thing if you abandon some OTHER religion; but, if you abandon the JW's you are bad.
Martin Luther abandoned Catholicism. He was an apostate. Good or bad?
Charles Taze Russel abadoned the religion of his parents for adventist views and managed to abandon those beliefs for some fresh ones of his own. He was a double (or triple) apostate.
Joseph Judge Rutherford changed religions to become a JW and was, consequently an Apostate.
Everytime a JW goes to a door to make a convert he is encouraging apostacy!
But, that kind of apostacy is noble and fine. Eh?
When David found fault with Saul and opposed him he was apostate.
When Jesus criticized the leaders of Judaism he was apostate.
Paul was apostate.
Who the hell wasn't apostate?
My point being this.
The governing body encourages in every way possible apostacy on the part of every other religion's membership but, brands it the greatest of all evils when it happens to them.
Double standard?
When anybody at anytime who is in a posItion of leadership and responsibility cuts themselves off from criticism and condemns whistle-blowers and treats them as anathema they are setting up the Loyal Opposition to become APOSTATE.
To prevent Apostacy the Governing Body needs to allow a means of hearing criticism and dealing with it.
If the JW's have the TRUTH it should be able to easily defend itself against any such criticisms. But, if JW's have lies and distortion--they have every reason to fear criticism and would necessarily cringe at having their deeds exposed to the light of day.
Even a Bank or Savings and Loan has regular audits. What would you think of a bank that refused an audit? Would it inspire confidence?Sometimes the people who love us most must oppose us when they see us on a wrong course of action. It is an act of faithful integrity and stalwart conscientiousness to point out error.
APOSTACY, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
When an honest complaint is made and no method of repair or redress is made possible; it is the party who disables the debate who CAUSES the Apostacy.Only a person of conscience can turn their back on a religion that turns a deaf ear to correction.Apostacy, therefore, is a sign of a healthy conscience that has met a dishonest and ignorant policy of stonewalling.
Long live Apostacy!
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thetrueone
If someone ask you personally "Are you an apostate?"
I reply yes absolutely, I'm an apostate to all spiritualist forms of thought and expression.
I'm also an apostate to New Age philosophies and teachings.
I'm a apostate to the belief and teachings of the Zodiac........etc. etc.
Usually after tell this to a JWS I follow through with telling them that I'm secular humanist,
they typically leave with a blank stare on their faces.
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leavingwt
If someone ask you personally "Are you an apostate?", How would you answer them?
Hell to the yes.
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Twitch
I wouldn't and I'd shun them with extreme prejudice
lol
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VoidEater
"What do you mean by 'apostate'?"
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Scully
If anyone had the ballz to ask me that, I'd have to remind them that any JW who used to belong to another religion is, by definition, an apostate.
And then I'd follow it with "so STFU already."
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WuzLovesDubs
The only one who would EVER ask that is a JW and so for that very reason I would say oh HELL YES! Just to watch them transform into vampires right in front of me.
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cyberjesus
I was dfd for adultery 14 years ago. So I did not abandoned my religion. They kicked me out. I have not had a religion since. Right now I dont believe in the JW religion I think they all are false religion and I can talk agains them and still I am not an apostate by definition.