How JT and "Lady C" will DA themselves

by JT 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • JT
    JT

    The Following is MY Opinion on the matter-- Like it or hate it
    Life is Still good

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    Every so often we will get a person asking the question should he DA himself or not.

    As many of you know I am a very strong believer in the power of the Net in seeking advice on such an issue. While we have discussed this issue many times and the opinions go the whole length from:

    "No don't do it" to "Yes do it and get some closure", it has been agreed on that it is indeed a personal matter based on many things

    In this thread we discussed the 2 major issues that a person needs to consider:

    1. How

    2. Timing

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5574&site=3#66584

    Now as for me at this point in my life I would not waste the Stamp, Paper or Time to write a DA letter, since I know it is the Brain Child of the Legal Dept to protect themselves-

    So for me I would not give them the Legal Document in THIER hand that "Could" prevent me from at a Future time SUING them SUCCESSFULLY-

    I mean-- think about- it was just a few years ago a Black woman sue the KKK and end up with all their property-

    who would have thought 25 yrs ago that a black woman would be able to sue the KKK and end up with their "Club House"

    So for me I wouldn't DA myself--------- "BUT, BUT"

    IF I were to DA myself I would do it right!!!!!!!!!!

    I often see here on the net some excellent DA letters, but the problem is they are being sent and mailed off to:

    MO, LARRY AND CURLY (AKA) Congregation Service Committee, who will start to read about 3 lines-- realize it is a DA letter-- and just look for the one line that says "I no longer want to be known as a JW"-

    Now what makes this phrase in quotes so funny is that it is exactly what the wt has stated they want you to put in your letter

    and most folks willingly comply-

    I see that phrase --"I no longer want to be known as a JW"-so many times in DA letters that folks write --

    one would think that the LegaL Dept sent it out in "Form" format to all the congregations and all you need to do is ask the SEC could you have DA form #3df2

    Realizing that if I did send in a DA I’m going to be Dogggggggggggggged anyway and cut off from anyone who knows me

    --then I figure I might as well go out with a Blast and let the last laugh be on them.

    I would sit down and write my letter and point out the reasons why- flip-flops, dates, and alternative service. Blood., the UN "THANG" ETC.

    But I would not send it to MO, LARRY AND CURLY-- O NO that would make it too easy for WT.

    I would make the WT work for this damn DA- smile . I would send it straight to the Legal Dept addressed to Carolyn Wah, or Phillip Brumley or Big William Bell-

    I would also CC: copies to all the Local Religious Editors of papers here in DC

    Wash Post , Wash Times and esp the small local community papers that are just looking for stuff to fill up the void in those papers—SMILE—

    I would also include TO THE SOCIETY ONLY that nice little "LEGAL LETTER" I have seen posted on this site by someone- where it basically says:

    "Don't FU%K with Me- It will cost you!!!!!!!!!!

    At that point they will shoot a copy over to the Service Dept and then they will start to look up my ZIP code ALL THE WHILE SAYING :

    "Where in the He!! does that damn JT live"

    Then they will see Wash, DC and over it goes to the bro on the service desk who handles this area.

    Then he may recognize who I am –- IF NOT--- HE WILL look into the Database to see if I was ever appointed and then "HOLY SH!T I know JT" we used to work in the bindery together SMILE

    Since they have no idea where I have moved to they will then start with the CO's and City Overseer-

    letters will be drafted in accord with legals instructions to: "Find his Black A$$" AKA "BA"

    Hey look I'm gonna get dogged anyway might as well have some fun while I'm at it

    Then UNBEKNOWN to the local elders they get this letter from Patterson asking them to do follow-up along with with copies to the COs in this area,

    but they ain't got no ADDRESS so they hit the Internet YAHOO people search hunting down my "BA"

    In the mean time a couple of Local papers "The Penny Pincher" and the "Thrifty Nickel" have carried a story:

    "Black JW Man & Woman Quits church after Flip Flops"

    they print all the flip-flops -give ALL REFERENCES found in wt publications.

    Local JW begin to exp. a harder time in FIELD SERVICE trying to deny what the Society has IN PRINT

    Local Bro are waiting for elders to announce that JT and Lady "C" have been DA, but none comes forth due to possible lawsuit and more bad press

    So the JW "Rumor Mill" goes into High Gear, esp when they see that E320 Benz that "Lady C" is driving.
    They say such things as"

    "JT is selling Drugs, Pimping HOs and cheating the IRS"

    O HOW I JUST LOVE IT----------

    Yes my friends if you are going to DA yourself then in my opinion and my opinion ONLY:

    DO THE DAMN THANG RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And have some fun

    Now this in my view is CLOSURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Just my 2

    James

  • teejay
    teejay

    I often see here on the net some excellent DA letters, but the problem is they are being sent and mailed off to: MO, LARRY AND CURLY (AKA) Congregation Service Committee, who will start to read about 3 lines-- realize it is a DA letter-- and just look for the one line that says "I no longer want to be known as a JW." Now, what makes this phrase in quotes so funny is that it is exactly what the wt has stated they want you to put in your letter and most folks [are] willing [to] comply. I see that phrase -- "I no longer want to be known as a JW" so many times in DA letters that folks write [that] one would think that the Legal Dept sent it out in "Form" format to all the congregations and all you need to do is ask the SEC could you have DA form #3df2

    James,

    When you wanna be, you are one funny fellow!

    I have always enjoyed your writing style but never more than today. I can say truthfully that you had me rolling. Yeah, there were some unfamiliar expressions like "FU%K" (never seen that before) and "HOLY SH!T" (is that like the Holy Bible?) and Black A$$ (Dahlia?).

    Otherwise, you had me rollin', and (seriously) presented some very good ideas too.

    I'm witchu, buddy. I ain't givin' them muthafuckas the satisfaction of a DA letter, but if I did, I'd sure consider what you said here.

    Thanks, main. Enjoyed the laff!! [;D]

    peace,
    tj

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    JT, you are too funny! I always have these imaginary scenarios of how the whole thing would go down. But the truth is the lamestreet press (As Hawk calls them) wont even carry the UN scandal. But since we're on this subject, I'll think up my DA dream:

    I send a letter directly to Brooklyn but coming from my attorney but I use a PO box. The letter demands nullifying my baptism. I address it directly to one of their big wig attorneys too so as not to waste MY time. This way they know I mean business too. And I'm not playing by their games (I am saying, "shut the F--k up you morons, you're not my "brothers" and you're not my "shepherds". I go straight to the ones who really run this corporation, not the ones who claim to run it for God!")

    Right away they go to the zip code but guess what, my PO box is in my brothers city, not mine which is 40 miles away from me! HA! So I send them on a wild goose chase. The letter ends with that I will assume my request has been granted if I do not hear from their attorney in writing within 30 days! And they spent the 30 days looking for me because they don't want to send me anything in writing! Then I call my sister and let her know that she no longer has to shun me because my baptism has been annulled and so I'm just a regular "worldly" person like the rest of the family who she loves.

    How do you like my idea?

  • JT
    JT

    Blue_

    I love it

    i mean like hey we all know they (jw friends, famiy, dog, etc) are going to shun you then you might as well have fun at it-

    and to be honest i think that if you get all your ducks in line before you send in a letter like this (new friends, mentally ready for shunning, just at peace with oneself, etc) then you can send in such a letter laughing all the way and back from the PO instead of what we often times see by those who send in a letter and are not PREPARE for the backlash

    yep DO IT RIGHT

  • JT
    JT

    TJ says

    "the satisfaction of a DA letter"

    ---------

    a few days ago a few of us were discussing the issue of suing the wT

    well most of us agreeed that perhaps here in the USA it may be very hard due to the long history of this country with religion and the state-

    but one of the bro raised an interesting point that as you move around the world all countries don't have the same laws in place and a jw could perhaps in someother nation sue and sue successfully -

    so the view was how would a volunteered letter impact a persons ablility to sue in that case

    would it be like telling Firestone & Ford : "Yes i accept the $500,000" and you sign off on it and then

    next week some lawyer gets everyone in the class action $6.5 Million apiece, but you can't share since you gave up your rights.

    just a thought

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    Exactly. I wasn't prepared for my sister shunning me and I was an idiot to "confess" to her that I am going to another church. But I am not DA or DF still she shuns me. But she talks to the rest of the fam who also go to this church. So I can get away with it by telling her I am just a "worldling" just because the WTS didn't respond to my letter within the 30 days.

    Now I am ready -

    got my ducks in line JT!
    (just trying something new I learned thanks to Simon.

    I'm going to do it. Wish me luck!

  • COMF
    COMF

    JT, I wish I'd had you around to give your advice back when I was writing my DA letter. You rock, man!

    COMF

  • mustang
    mustang

    Very good, JT.

    Send them a letter saying that you will NEVER RELEASE THEM from ....
    (unspecified)......... etc.

    Mustang

  • D wiltshire
    D wiltshire

    Kick their ass JT!!!

    If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
  • Kay Francis
    Kay Francis

    Great post! You're quite amusing. I've enjoyed reading all of your posts.

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