The strange tale of CHARLIE and MARIA RUSSELL: (the Twain)

by Terry 30 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • JWoods
    JWoods

    OK. I was actually worried about Terry, hoping he was not transferring that Melissa Scott fantasy over to the ancient Maria.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Surely we are not attempting to make a heroienne out of this crazy woman?

    She was just as bad as her husband.

    Not a crazy woman in the least.

    She was a highly intelligent and self-disciplined woman who was motivated in what she felt was a positive direction just like every other Christian who has come along in the last two thousand years.

    Her ideas were no more or less crazy than Martin Luther or Pat Robertson or Joel Osteen. Religion is itself CRAZY--is it not?

    Do we measure her sanity in terms of our contemporary belief systems? That would be silly.

    What strikes me as important about Maria is this. She was way ahead of her time in approaching women's rights issues IN TERMS OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. She gave reasons and reasonings which reflect a lot of contemporary scholarship.

    I think she was way too smart and dynamic to be a shadow on C.T.Russell.

    It is abundantly clear Maria Russell was marginalized by Charles Russell by UNDERHANDED means.

    And, in the final analysis---Russell's personal integrity is strongly reflected in the consequent religion he founded and which exists today OPPRESSING WOMEN and marginalizing them by underhanded means.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    LOL @ JWoods!

    Why don't you climb into one of your Ferraris and go for a ride across the Painted Desert!

    You are a mess!

    *shaking head in bemusement*

    Sylvia

  • Terry
    Terry
    OK. I was actually worried about Terry, hoping he was not transferring that Melissa Scott fantasy over to the ancient Maria.

    Okay, ya got me! I'm wild about super-intelligent women!

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    Okay, ya got me! I'm wild about super-intelligent women!

    Just from the basis of the pictures, I think Melissa trumps Maria.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    Why don't you climb into one of your Ferraris and go for a ride across the Painted Desert!

    Sylvia, it was cloudy in Dallas today and looking like rain, so I had to drive the Porsche 993.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    ROFL.

    Sylvia

  • dgp
    dgp

    Marked for later.

  • Terry
    Terry

    There have been so many remarkable women propping up the Watchtower religion without any credit or respect. It is really a horrible and intolerable crime against humanity.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    There have been so many remarkable women propping up the Watchtower religion without any credit or respect. It is really a horrible and intolerable crime against humanity.

    That is true enough, but did Maria Russell actually provide much doctrinal input into the early witness beliefs? I had the idea that Russell kind of copied most of it from some male associates and of course from the adventists.

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