Catholic Leaders Publicly Apologize over Child Abuse - Would WT Society ?

by flipper 32 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I seem to remember their "apology" for 1975 and thought anything their lawyers would insist upon for this issue would only be because of a public perception that has to be addressed (as in the RC Church situation). Here's what the lawyers might allow:

    From the Governing Body to the public:

    If anybody who is a pedophile or child abuser of any kind has joined our organization, we are sorry that they sullied our name. We are sorry that the law didn't allow us to have access to their police records. We are sorry that they lied to us. We further apologize for the law tying our hands when we wanted to come forward with information.

    Be assured that they are kicked out of the congregation as quickly as their real intentions get out. Jw's cooperate with all of the required laws.


    That should satisfy the public, now let's get back to screwing the members over.

  • flipper
    flipper

    BLONDIE- I'm sorry you were a victim of child abuse. I remember reading some of your experiences awhile back ago. I agree with everything you say. Except that " the WTS would apologize if they could keep their legal responsibility out of it. " How do you propose they would EVER be free from legal responsibility ? They will be FORCED into legal responsibility if enough semi-wealthy JW's children get abused - the WT society will be faced with more of these lawsuits in the future. Now whether the JW victims could afford to keep it going in court is another matter entirely. Some victims due to financial circumstances may have to settle out of court as did the JW victims in California 3 years ago.

    My wife and I have a good friend in SNAP who posts regularly on this board. I agree the SNAP group does wonders for child abuse victims. And yes, the Roman Catholic church is guilty of cover ups as well. However I just don't see the WT society EVER apologizing for child abuse neglect policies of theirs. They cannot afford the loss of millions $$$$ as much as the Catholics can absorb. It's all about protecting their ballgame and investments and $$$ . The WT society is invested in mind controlled human beings- they can't afford to jeopardize that by admitting guilt. They are only 6 million strong across the globe.

    HEAVEN- I agree. The WT society IS far removed from reality of which they have no concept of in dealing with this issue of child abuse. All they are worried about is protecting their financial assets , not their children. They'll never apologize. I feel this also because curiously enough , believe me, it wasn't by coincidence that in October of 2007 they came out with an article about " Protecting your Children from Child Abuse " in the Awake magazine. The timing was such that it was a PR move because the WT society KNEW that a November 22, 2007 NBC news release would be nationally broadcasting about the 16 victims in California and the multi-million $$$ out of court lawsuits. So they were covering their PR a$$ by pretending to care

  • flipper
    flipper

    OTWO- Exactly. You get the point I'm trying to make here. The only kind of admission the WT society would make would be a non-admission of sorts. It would blame EVERBODY elses lack of responsibility - the law would be blamed for negligence, parents, the children themselves , everybody EXCEPT the leaders of the WT society. This organization has had this modus operandi since it's inception

  • truthseekeriam
    truthseekeriam

    Well as a mother of a child molested in the JW org I would love ANY public apology from the WTS... even, if only to prove to their followers that it does indeed happen within the spiritual Paradise.

  • flipper
    flipper

    TRUTHSEEKERIAM- Very true. I'm so sorry your child was abused and suffered. I mean, an apology wouldn't take away the pain, but if the WT society just apologized over lax child abuse policies it would at least APPEAR to show to their members that the leaders have an alleged collective conscience. As it stands right now- they appear no better than Charles Manson , Jeff Dahmer, or Attila the Hun.

  • truthseekeriam
    truthseekeriam

    Exactly Flipper.

    One day it will happen...

    Sadly, not in time for too many that have been left feeling unimportant and disposable.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    What, God's only solemn organization on earth make an admissible apology for screwing up.

    Wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

    The WTS. make the rules and laws for others to follow they have or take no responsibility for their own actions.

    They should have brought the matter to the proper authorities just as the Catholics should have.

    This ancient philosophical ideology that pedophilia is just a simple little sin, that just needs some

    sought after redemption, is far off from what modern sociality perceives to be.

    The WTS. has always propagated itself as being the one and only true spiritually guided

    organization, on this premise they have set forth an image that they want the public to perceive .

    On that premise making bold apologies on anything is rare as seeing a elder with long hair and a beard.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    - the law would be blamed for negligence, parents, the children themselves , everybody EXCEPT the leaders of the WT society.

    Well add this to the "apology" -

    The writings of the Watchtower and the specific instructions to parents have always always been for parents to take direct responsibility for their children's welfare at all times. We are sorry that some parents have let their children down and allowed them to go camping with supposed trusted brothers that turned out to be not truly brothers at all.

  • agonus
    agonus

    OTWO, that sounds about right... "Yes, we're sorry... that YOU GUYS fucked up."

  • blondie
    blondie

    SNAP Press Statement

    For immediate release: Friday, March 19, 2010

    Warning: Pope's letter could cause pain to victims

    Statement by Peter Isely, Midwest Director 414 429 7259

    No matter how long, detailed, passionate or “unprecedented” the Pope’s words of sympathy to Irish citizens may be tomorrow, we hope they will be ignored. At this point, words aren’t needed. Decisive action is needed.

    Apologies are appropriate when a crisis is over. This crisis is barely beginning. Everyone’s focus now should not be on “renewal” or “reconciliation.” (That can come later.) It must be on protecting kids right now, kids who are vulnerable to the dozens, perhaps hundreds, of predatory priests, nuns, seminarians, brothers and other church employees – past and present. Though some of the offenders are deceased or elderly, many of them are walking and working free among unsuspecting families and should still be considered dangerous.

    It’s irresponsible to speak of the on-going scandal and risk and harm in the past tense, and pretend that only the healing of wounds is needed now.

    The second focus should be on learning the full truth. No doctor operates on a cancer patient without knowing where and how much cancer there is. Similarly, secular and church officials can’t truly begin to protect the vulnerable and heal the wounded until they know who and where the predators and enablers are and how clergy sex crimes have been and are so effectively concealed.

    There is much the Pope could do right now to help, but we aren’t optimistic. When it comes to abuse, he “talks the talk” but refuses to “walk the walk.” With church cover ups, he often fails to even “talk the talk.”

    We fear he won’t seek or demand resignations of callous, deceitful and reckless Irish bishops who have enabled hundreds of pedophiles to assault thousands of children.

    We predict he won’t call for more state investigations into Ireland’s other dioceses, (where it’s likely thousands more clergy sex crimes and hundreds more church cover ups remain hidden).

    We predict he won’t beg victims and witnesses and whistleblowers to call police so that predators can be prosecuted.

    We predict he won’t urge lawmakers to reform archaic, predator-friendly laws that shield child molesters and reckless employers.

    We predict he won’t make sorely-needed and long-overdue world-wide church edits that could make a difference (like creating a church-run global registry of predator priests like the one in the US maintained by concerned Catholic lay people at BishopAccountability.org)

    Why do these steps matter?

    Ousting complicit bishops is important because that deters future callousness, recklessness and deceit by other officials, inside and outside the church.

    More independent investigations is important because Irish citizens, Catholics, victims and governmental authorities need and deserve to know the full truth so that future abuse and cover ups can be minimized.

    Begging those with information about crimes and cover ups to speak up is important because we must all be reminded of our civic and moral duty to share knowledge with law enforcement so that kids will be protected.

    Reforming old and ineffective laws – both criminal and civil – is important because secular laws (not self-serving and sporadically followed internal church policies) safeguard the vulnerable.

    The registry is important because it’s the single most immediate and effective way to protect children today – letting neighbors, parents, employers and co-workers know about dangerous predators.

    (If the Pope doesn’t establish one, each Irish bishop should immediately do so in his own diocese.)

    The bottom line: what comes from the Vatican tomorrow may make a few adults temporarily feel better. It won’t make any kids safer. It won’t shed light on hidden truths. It won’t discipline wrong-doers. It won’t deter more wrong-doing.

    That requires courageous action, not a papal letter.

    (SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world’s oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims. We’ve been around for 21 years and have more than 9,000 members across the country. Despite the word “priest” in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)

    Contact David Clohessy (314-566-9790 cell, 314-645-5915 home), Barbara Blaine (312-399-4747), Peter Isely (414-429-7259), Barbara Dorris (314-862-7688 home, 314-503-0003 cell)


    Survivors Network of those Abused by Priestswww.snapnetwork.org

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