Transexual starts a study...what happens next??

by digderidoo 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie
    blondie

    The real problem is which restroom do they use at the KH; dressed as a woman but still equipped as a man or dressed as a man but equipped as a woman. Even if they have had the operation, the elders feel they must dress and act like their original gender. One person came to the KH I was at but could not accept the pressure the elders put on him (really a her).

  • VoidEater
    VoidEater

    Void eater- if you are born with and XX chromosome you get a vag, XY you get a pecker. XXY and you're a herme... It's science.

    Not that simple, from what I've read. There are a variety of chromosomal abnormalities that make such a cut-and-dried view difficult.

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia
    BTW.... that story about a transwoman reverting to acting like a man?
    sounds pretty improbable, based on my experience as an insider in
    the queer community.... not saying it CAN'T happen, just sounds like
    a JW urban legend.....

    chickpea....Seems to happen often enough to merit special mention in a handbook devoted to the treatment and management of gender disorders (found via Google Books):

    "Religiously motivated reversion. Reversions in this setting have seemingly been isolated to patients who were Jehovah's Witnesses prior to contact with a gender identity clinic. The Jehovah's Witnesses' belief system specifically opposes people changing gender role and especially undergoing hormonal or surgical treatments. Patients from such a background claim (probably honestly) to feel so strongly that they ought to change their gender role that they can overrule the strictures of a faith that in other regards has won their allegiance. Some Jehovah's Witness patients have managed to change their role and remain at ease in their contact with Jehovah. It does seem, though, that the Jehovah's Witness faith is particularly hard to relinquish. Jehovah's Witness patients have reverted to their former gender role, some without overtly religious motivation and others openly reintegrating with their faith community by so doing. The same does not seem to have occurred with other faiths" (James Barrett, "Reversion to former gender role after gender reassignment surgery", p. 257; link).

  • Rabbit
    Rabbit

    Leolaia

    " It does seem, though, that the Jehovah's Witness faith is particularly hard to relinquish. "

    That researcher certainly did his homework, didn't he? He said a mouthful !

  • minimus
    minimus

    Brocephus is correct.

  • minimus
    minimus

    Ladyboys are not accepted.

  • doublelife
    doublelife

    Wow, Leolaia. Thanks for the link. I wasn't sure how true that story was myself but it looks like there might be more truth to it than I realized.

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    leolaia.... i have to say that information turns my stomach,
    and is yet another reason i am so thankful to be clear of this
    control group... it still think the failure to reveal sexual reassignment
    surgery to a potential spouse is beyond the pale.... especially with
    the complicit silence of elders.... i cannot believe litigation would not
    stem from such a fraud

    it would be interesting to see further stats on "reverted" JW
    suicide rates since there is a statistical proclivity amongst trans
    people in general to ideate, plan and attempt suicide ...

    i cannot even try to imagine what their hell must be

    http://www.transgenderzone.com/library/st/pdf/ThorpyandReid2008.pdf

    http://www.mentalhealthequalities.org.uk/our-work/gender/transgender/

  • TG-Jasper
    TG-Jasper

    Since we are discussing a transwoman...it bothers me that so many of you are refering to her as a he

  • inverlass
    inverlass

    Firstly to say if at all possible do not sin. I found that when I was a bother infact a ministiral servant, that my body did not match my brain... ( you know the way you do things, the things you enjoy; more the fact that you never fit in to a man world.) and so I left to have a sexchange... writing a letter of disasociation telling the elders exactly what I was about to do, and that I would return after after along time when the matter was put right. 20 years past, and I still love Jehovah, I hold private worship and memorials. It was then that a couple of nice christians on the door offered me the magazines again. Though, I did say that death would be welcome for me, they insisted that lesbians could come to the meetings. I guess that since I wanted to share my worship with any who would listen, I thought that since the eunuch was able to be baptised so my worship is acceptable to Jah also because I have great faith in him and Jesus etc. I am wondering if the acceptance of transgendered people by the Governing body is not available because of bigittory as hence the absence of Acts 8:37 which shows the act of faith to be of great importance. More?

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