Encounter with JW's take two...

by highdose 24 Replies latest jw experiences

  • highdose
    highdose

    My doorbell rang about 30mins ago, standing out side was a 30 somthing man and a very very young boy. The young boy mumbled and stuttered and limply waved about a awake magazine at me. I told him i wasn't interested because his religon had a bigger child abuse problem than the cathloic church, the difference is JW's cover it up better. Look on the internet i said, it is plastered with storys about JW child abuse and how it is covered up!

    He looked stunned, and asked me to repeat so i did, at which point the older guy behind him decided to take over. He said " well you know there are alot of lies said about JW's!" , i interuppted and said " so what are you saying? that all these children are lying about being abused?"

    " no" he said " but the bible dos say that nobody is perfect..." , " so that gives them the right to abuse children does it?" i said.

    "no" he said " but if we live our lifes by what the bible says we will have better lifes even though we are all imperfect" , " i know" i said " and you use the bible to cover up child abuse, a child comes and says ""i've been abused" you say "" were there two wittnesses to it?" and if not you won't belilve them!"

    He had no answer to this, and you could see the penny dropping that he was talking to an apostate, worse still that he had no answer.

    I turned to the young boy and said " your very young arn't you? how old are you?" he said 17, " ok i said, your stil young enough to make somthing of your life, these people will tell you not to look at anything about them that hasn't been printed by them themselves, they will tell you to stay away from what the interent says about them, you can obey that if you want, but if you do, you will be wasting your life in this cult!"

    While i was saying this he actauly made eye contact with me, somthing he had yet to do, his eyes flashed a little, but as soon as the older guy chimed back he meeked looked at the floor again.

    " if you would read our magazines you would find out that we are good people!" , " i know exactly what kind of people you are! trouble is you don't" i said, he stumbled around saying "well.... well" obivously losted for words, so i said goodbye and put them out of their misery.

    The older guy quickly and gratefully darted for the door, the younger one made eye contact again and said "thankyou, goodbye"

    You know what? all my life when i was on the doors as a JW i never had the abilty to defend my views or pull facts out of my head like that. Amazing that i now do!

  • etna
    etna

    highdose, I'm so glad you said something, I think if we all say something to them and get into a discussion with them we are more equiped than before. I've spent countless hours from door to door and I think I know more about the jws now than I did with 40 years in it.

    Good on you for speaking up.

    Etna

  • teel
    teel

    Congrats. Who knows, the boy might be soon reading this topic.

    What kind of comeback is this? "Read our magazines to find out that we are good people"? Do good deeds so everyone sees you're good people, don't point to a magazine boasting with some small scale goodness, or some fictious "good deeds" that the majority won't care about (like literature peddling). It's like I'm on trial, there are several eyewitness that I murdered, but I present the jury with my autobiography: read this, then you'll see I'm a good person.

  • Scott77
    Scott77

    Hi Highdose,

    Good job but... you was a bit strong. You went 'over the top'. You 'overkilled' the prey. Please, read Moshe's thread posted today at this link for some suggestations from several contributors on how to 'underkill' the prey, comes the next chance. Here is the link.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191515/1/I-tried-to-talk-to-JWs-today-and-they-ran-away

    Good luck

    Scott77

  • highdose
    highdose

    hi scott77,

    thanks i was concerned though that i wasn't going to get a 2nd chance, and quite frankly neither was this boy, I don't have the luxuary of a return visit.

    Today i have shown this young lad 1) one aspect of his religon is badly wrong 2) that his fellow brother couldn't defend it 3) i've told him were to look and what he will find.

    If he ends up here...... welcome!:)

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Scott, when were you appointed overseer of the board? Leave highdose alone.

    Highdose, I think you did a great job. I’d say that something you said resonated with him. Kudos to him for making eye contact with you – what a nice respectful young man!

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    For what it's worth, I think you did a great job highdose...managing to get a lot across in a short space of time and gave them both something to think about. It's amazing how little these JWs know about their own religion...blinkered, brainwashed zombies.

  • iknowall558
    iknowall558

    Well done Highdose. You did good. I think what you said will stay with the young guy and he will possibly look it up. I dont even think the pep talk from the older guy when they left your door would stop his curiosity. It was quite a subject you brought up and not something to put out of your mind quickly. Who knows....maybe even the old boy will check, if nothing else, just to prove to the younger one its not true. Ha!

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Wow. Well done Highdose.

    I'll put your time card in for you.

    Cheers

    Chris

  • blondie
    blondie

    When you said very young boy I thought of a 5 year old. While 17 is not old, old, I would not consider them a young, young boy. I was surprised later in the account to read that he was 17.

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