Mormon Version of Hell

by cameo-d 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    .....teaches that upon death, righteous souls go to Paradise, while the souls of the unrepentant go to a spirit prison, where the former are sent from Paradise to preach the Gospel to the latter, and the living perform work in LDS Temples providing ordinances that can only be received in the flesh, which the repentant imprisoned ones can accept.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection

    Imagine that you were an apostate and you end up in the spirit prison. Would you rather have to listen to the righteous Mormons or the righteous JWs (providing you were given a preference)?

    Can you imagine that if you were a fading Mormon, that you would still have to go out in service once you get to heaven? This time, the door slammers will have to listen to you.

    Who writes these damn church doctrines??

  • carla
    carla

    geez, what kind of choice is that? might as well ask- would you rather cut off your left arm or right arm? Guess that's why it's hell huh?

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    Who writes these damn church doctrines??

    They have allways been man's thoughts about God, not God's thoughts about man.

    Do you have thoughts about God?

    Write them down and you could be the new Josephs Myth or Judge Rutherford or David Koresh. Once they are on paper you just need to get good advice on marketing.

    Cheers

    Chris

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Who writes these damn church doctrines??

    1 Timothy 4

    Blessings,

    Stephen

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Chalam, It's interesting that you should mention that passage. Even though I don't see how it relates to Mormon Hell, I did find a curious line.

    3They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods,

    This is a timeless scripture. It was just as true 2000 years ago as it is today. There may have been issues due to health or spiritual reasons, but those have not always been made clear. As we transition to the New System, there is currently a strong push for vegetarianism among all of the faith based organizations. Today we know the reasons. The meats we are eating are full of hormones and antibiotics, not to mention the danger of parasites and Mad Cow. The methods of animal harvesting are inhumane. The toxicity of the shellfish as scavenger creatures are worse today because of so much radioactive pollution in the oceans. Question is...is it too little too late? These things have been known for a very long time and no concerted effort has been made to change things on a collective level. Now, it will soon be implemented in a drastic way and folks will have to get used to it.

    People being forbidden to marry.....Apparently this was in force in some circles during the first century for this to have been mentioned. It has carried through even today, since this is a requirement for certain religions. In the New System, the forbidding to marry may have something to do with blood lines and genetic defects and will probably still be dictated by the ruling powers.

    This thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191508/1/God-is-Already-Cleaning-Up-and-the-New-System-Framework-is-Established mentions some of the new provisions and ideas that are currently being put in place for this transition.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    there is currently a strong push for vegetarianism among all of the faith based organizations. Today we know the reasons. The meats we are eating are full of hormones and antibiotics, not to mention the danger of parasites and Mad Cow. The methods of animal harvesting are inhumane.

    Uhmmm...OK

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    Hello cameo,

    Don't forget that the GB forbade marriage before "Armageddon" in 1925.

    Who writes these damn church doctrines??

    OK, try the NASB 1 Timothy 4:1

    Blessings,

    Stephen

  • mindmelda
    mindmelda

    I lived in a predominately LDS town for nearly 20 years. It was total hell in many ways, since they controlled most of the social and political elements of the town.

    If you weren't LDS, you weren't shit, plain and simple. You didn't count, and you were locked out of a lot of things going on in your own town.

    It's quite similar in some ways to being a Witness, except that they can use politics and other things that Witnesses don't use to twist your arm.

    I can't tell you how many times I was told by people in that community to just give up and become LDS so that my life would be easier.

    There was pretty much constant forms of coercement to join up.

    A lot of the main LDS church doctrine was written by Brigham Young, not so much Smith, who died too young to write much. Young was a self appointed lord over the whole of Utah at one point, combining religious and political power over his followers to the point where it wasn't against the law to murder non Mormons who came through Utah and gave them the least excuse to do so.

    A really frightening guy they follow and his tenets are the worst sort of 19th century nonsense and bigotry against people of color and women.

    If the Mormons were really still following this guy and Smith, they really would all be living in compounds holed up against the US government and practicing polygamy like the offshoot groups still do.

    They've prettied it up over the years to conform to more currently socially acceptable ideas, but at the heart of Mormonism is a whole lot of weird mixed up with a whole lot of ugly.

    I think it's a cult...living in Mormon land and observing them, it was pretty much Children of the Corn. Nice people individually, of course, but that religion is pure crack.

    It has nothing much to do with the Bible...it doesn't really need to and if pressed, they will admit that, usually. A lot of them are actually kind of proud of that, that they have their own "Bible".

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    mindmelda: "

    If you weren't LDS, you weren't shit, plain and simple. You didn't count, and you were locked out of a lot of things going on in your own town.

    It's quite similar in some ways to being a Witness, except that they can use politics and other things that Witnesses don't use to twist your arm.

    I can't tell you how many times I was told by people in that community to just give up and become LDS so that my life would be easier.

    There was pretty much constant forms of coercement to join up."

    That was just a dry run. Can you imagine what it would be like if the whole of our society was based like that?

  • read good books
    read good books

    Don't forget that the GB forbade marriage before "Armageddon" in 1925.

    At Bethel too before 1975 you had to put in four years as a single person, if you didn't make your four years you were branded as somebody who didn't keep their word. President Knorr would go on tirades against the people who left early.

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