The Demise of Babylon the Great: When?

by AGuest 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    To the Household of God, Israel , and those who go with… may you have peace!

    Very recently, a dear one asked me as to where Babylon the Great’s destruction fit into the timetable I posted as to the chronology of events from “immediately after the great tribulation” to the culmination of the “second resurrection.” At the time, I did not know what to answer as I had not considered the matter nor been given any specifics regarding that event. Before I could write that I did not know, however, our Lord stopped me and gave me the answer:

    The Harlot’s demise occurs AFTER the 1,000 years have ended.

    I realize that this truth is a great departure from what you/we were taught by the WTBTS… and so may be somewhat “difficult” for you to “receive” without hesitation. But it is the truth and in order to help those who need to “see it in writing” in order to put faith in it, our Lord has directed me to share the following, s tarting with Revelation 16:10-17:

    “10 And the fifth one poured out his bowl upon the throne of the wild beast. And its kingdom became darkened, (COMPARE Revelation 17:8, as to the wild beast “was but IS NOT”) and they began to gnaw their tongues for [their] pain, 11 but they blasphemed the God of heaven for their pains and for their ulcers, and they did not repent of their works.

    “12 And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Eu·phra´tes, and its water was dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun.

    “13 And I saw three unclean inspired expressionslike frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    “14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons (COMPARE Revelation 18:2) and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the warof the great day of God the Almighty. (COMPARE to Revelation 20:8)

    “16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Ma·ged´on. (COMPARE Revelation 20:8)

    “17 And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!” 18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, andthe cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found. 21 And a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed God due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great. (COMPARE Revelation 20:9; Exodus 9:23, 24; Psalm 18:12, 13, and 105:23. Notice, the kings are gathered to the war as a result of the SIXTH bowl being poured out, while Babylon doesn’t fall... nor become destroyed... until after the SEVENTH bowl is poured out.)

    “16 And they gathered them together to the place that is called in Hebrew Har–Ma·ged´on. (COMPARE Revelation 20:8)

    “17 And the seventh one poured out his bowl upon the air. At this a loud voice issued out of the sanctuary from the throne, saying: “It has come to pass!” 18 And lightnings and voices and thunders occurred, and a great earthquake occurred such as had not occurred since men came to be on the earth, so extensive an earthquake, so great. 19 And the great city split into three parts, andthe cities of the nations fell; and Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath. 20 Also, every island fled, and mountains were not found. 21 And a great hail with every stone about the weight of a talent descended out of heaven upon the men, and the men blasphemed God due to the plague of hail, because the plague of it was unusually great. (COMPARE Revelation 20:9; Exodus 9:23, 24; Psalm 18:12, 13, and 105:23. Notice, the kings are gathered to the war as a result of the SIXTH bowl being poured out, while Babylon doesn’t fall... nor become destroyed... until after the SEVENTH bowl is poured out.)

    Then, to Revelation 17:12-18:

    “12 “And the ten hornsthat you saw mean ten kings , who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast . 13 These have one thought , and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast. (COMPARE Revelation 17:17)

    “14 These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”

    “15 And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues. (COMPARE Revelation 20:8)

    “16 And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, thesewill hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire. 17 For God put [it] into their hearts to carry out his thought, even to carry out [their] one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished. 18 And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”COMPARE Revelation 16:13, 19; 20:8

    On to Revelation 18:9, 10, 15-17, 23, 24:

    “9 “And the kings of the earth who committed fornication with her and lived in shameless luxury will weep and beat themselves in grief over her, when they look at the smoke from the burning of her, 10 while they stand at a distance because of their fear of her torment and say, ‘Too bad, too bad, you great city, Babylon you strong city, because in one hour your judgment has arrived!’ COMPARE Revelation 17:12

    “15 “The traveling merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of [their] fear of her torment and will weep and mourn, 16 saying, ‘Too bad, too bad—the great city, clothed with fine linen and purple and scarlet , and richly adorned with gold ornament and precious stone and pearl, 17 because in one hour such great riches have been devastated!’ COMPARE Revelation 17:12

    “23 and no light of a lamp will ever shine in you again, and no voice of the Bridegroom and of the Bride will ever be heard in you again; COMPARE Matthew 25:1; Revelation 21:2, 23, 24

    “because your traveling merchants were the top-ranking men of the earth, for by your spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.COMPARE Revelation 22:15

    “24 Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

    I, SA, have shared these truths with you just as I have received them from our Lord, the Holy Spirit and Holy One of Israel, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, who is the Son and Christ of our Heavenly Father, the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAH of Armies.

    Thus, may those with ears HEAR what the Spirit says NOW:

    “Get OUT of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. F or her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.” Revelation 18:4-8

    Who IS this Harlot? Like our Lord's TRUE Bride... she is a "city"... comprised of PEOPLE... and,thus, a DWELLING place for "spirits" (COMPARE Revelation 18:2; 21:2; Romans 8:9, 10; Ephesians 2:22). UNLIKE Christ's true Bride, however, SHE (the Harlot) is a dwelling place of DEMONS... and UNCLEAN SPIRITS... those who SAY they belong to Christ, SAY they have/are in a union with him, SAY they “know” him (as a wife knows a husband)… but prove FALSE in these things by means of their “fornication.” Rather than adhering to HIS “law” (the law of LOVE)… they take on the “law” of their paramours, the kings of the earth, those who consort with the wild beast. They are LIARS, therefore... and thus "unclean."

    Because of this particular lie... She is found ONLY in the religions of “christendom,” including the WTBTS… for they are the ONLY ones who falsely claim such a “union.” NON-christian religions have never CLAIMED to be “in union” with Christ… indeed, they don’t even recognize him as their “husbandly owner”… so they cannot be a part of this Harlot. They are part of another entity, who identity is outside the scope of this particular matter.

    But why get out of her NOW, if her demise doesn’t take place until at least 1,000 years AFTER our Lord has returned? Because it is those who are out of her WHEN OUR LORD RETURNS… which occurs at the beginning of the 1,000 years… who do not “share in her plagues”… who do not meet her end with her.

    As always, I bid you peace and ears to hear when the Spirit and the Bride say to YOU:

    “Come! Take life’s water… FREE!”

    Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with… and a slave of Christ to time in

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    definite,

    SA

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Good Afternoon Shelby..

    Jesus is supposed to return?..Here on earth?..

    Like walking around here..So people can actually see and talk to him him?..

    People have been lied to so much..It would suprise a lot of people..Me included

    I can go have a beer with him?..LOL!!..

    Is it going to be soon?..

    I don`t mean Watchtower soon..I mean before I`m Frigg`in Dead..LOL!!!..

    ........................... ...OUTLAW

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Shelby...

    you said: "UNLIKE Christ's true Bride, however, SHE (the Harlot) is a dwelling place of DEMONS... and UNCLEAN SPIRITS... those who SAY they belong to Christ, SAY they have/are in a union with him, SAY they “know” him (as a wife knows a husband)… but prove FALSE in these things by means of their “fornication.”"

    I don't read where "everyone" in Babylon says they are in union with Christ or know Him as a wife knows her husband...but prove false to these things...I do see where the kings commit fornication with Babylon though...

    as well...only ones with authority can mislead others...little ones seldom have a voice but "follow orders"...there must be some kind of pecking order where 10 kings have authority over demons and unclean spirits...

    love michelle

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    p.s....

    if you're going to point your finger at "christendom"...you're going to have to have more than 10 fingers for the protestants and there is only one supreme authority in the catholic faith.

    ...if you're going to point...

    love michelle

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Myelaine..

    I`m always surprised when Christians read Shelbys posts and don`t understand a word of what she said..

    You don`t have to believe what she says..But..How can you not understand what she says?..

    I`m not a Christian and her words are crystal clear..

    Shelby does`nt make the news,she just reports it from Radio Station "Jesus"..

    .................. ...OUTLAW

  • Judge Dread
    Judge Dread

    Quit speculating.

    Judge Dread

  • AGuest
    AGuest
    Good Afternoon Shelby..

    Good evening to you, dear Outlaw... and the greatest of love and peace to you!

    Jesus is supposed to return?..Here on earth?..

    Yes, dear one... first to gather his chosen ones to take to the marriage (his to them) which occurs in the spirit realm, after which he and they (his "bride", New Jersualem) "come down out of heaven" (i.e., are manifest/revealed)... after which they will rule... UPON the earth. Not over it. Not from heaven. ON the earth.

    Like walking around here..So people can actually see and talk to him him?

    Of that I'm not sure. You see, he will be "inside" the [beloved] City (New Jerusalem), so while I know that those IN the City will have access to him, my understanding is that those who are OUTSIDE will not. So, some people will see/talk to him, yes. But my understanding is that others will not have that privilege. Well, at least, not in the way you are suggesting...

    People have been lied to so much..

    Omigosh, yes. Sigh. HUGE sigh. I am sorry for that, truly. Not that my apology will "cover" anything that the liars have said and the damage that has occurred as a result. But I am sorry. I hate that this has occurred, as does my Father and my Lord. They did say that it would, though...

    It would suprise a lot of people..Me included

    Well, I can understand your surprise and that of "a lot" of people. Many, though, won't be surprised and others shouldn't be...

    I can go have a beer with him?..LOL!!..

    I can't see why not... except perhaps that since he won't have flesh as we have it... and thus the need to have a beer... but I can't see why he wouldn't go with you and maybe watch YOU "indulge" - LOLOLOL! I mean, he did hang out with "sinners" the last time he was here - LOLOLOLOL! Not that I'm calling you a sinner, dear one, but I was thinking of a bar and how folks like those in the WTBTS think he'd more likely be found in a KH or church. Not.

    Is it going to be soon?... I don`t mean Watchtower soon..I mean before I`m Frigg`in Dead..LOL!!!..

    My sincerest apologies, dear friend... but I am not at liberty to say. Not that I know; I don't. But I'm not at liberty to say what I do know... at least, not at this time. Please forgive me - I do not mean to be illusive or anything like that, but only truthful.

    Anyway, as always, the greatest of love and peace to you!

    YOUR servant, friend, and a slave of Christ,

    SA

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    You will be pleased to know that JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH finally contacted me, so I am okay now.
    JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH said that AGuest posts many words and loses the audience.
    JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH wants me to take over as the spokesman for holy spirit. I am more direct and to the point.

  • Lieu
    Lieu

    “24Yes, in her was found the blood of prophets and of holy ones and of all those who have been slaughtered on the earth.”

    Um, that has been said about Jerusalem

    Matt 23: 32 Go ahead, finish what your ancestors started!
    33 "You snakes! You poisonous snakes! How can you escape being condemned to hell?


    34 I'm sending you prophets, wise men, and teachers of the Scriptures. You will kill and crucify some of them. Others you will whip in your synagogues and persecute from city to city.
    35 As a result, you will be held accountable for all the innocent blood of those murdered on earth, from the murder of righteous Abel to that of Zechariah, son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
    36 I can guarantee this truth: The people living now will be held accountable for all these things.
    37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you kill the prophets and stone to death those sent to you! How often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you were not willing!
    38 Your house will be abandoned, deserted.

    Jerusalem was burned to the ground by the Roman army. All that remains of that ancient and great city is rubble.

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