by wannabe 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Jesus was accused of breaking the Sabbath. Did he?
He was lord of the Sabbath, as are we all, now.
The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath.
Jesus was acuused of breaking MANY Laws, not sure what your point is on this Terry, can you clear it up for me?
I am Lord of the Sabbath? Cool I always wanted a Title :) - can I put it on my Mastercard?
Terry:
"Do you ever think about what you think about?" (Spencer Tracy to Fredrick March, INHERIT THE WIND)"
Terry, I love this! Excellent quote. Haven’t seen that movie in ages. Excellent film too.
Jesus was accused of breaking the Sabbath. Did he?
Doing good on the Sabbath was breaking the Sabbath? Hmm . . . Isn’t that just typical of a self-righteous Pharisee and those like them? Go figure.
Freydo:
Heb 8:10 "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,
saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,"
What laws?
Do you really have to ask such a question, Freydo? I mean really? It is the Law of Love—the law of love: to love God—to love your neighbor as you love yourself—to love expansively all of Jah’s creation. Freydo, do you really have to ask such a question?
Galatians 5:14: For the whole law is fulfill ed in one word, even in this: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
James 2:8: Howbeit if ye fulfil the royal law , according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
Matthew 5:18: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
Last time I checked, heaven and earth are still here and all obviously has not been fulfilled.
Are you not familiar with hyperbole? Metaphor? Simile? Emphasis?
Heb 7:12,18 "For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.....The former regulation is set aside"
That doesn't make all of God's laws obsolete. It makes salvation possible for those of faith who keep the law that's written in their minds.
And yet, contrary to your assertion, the biblical writer does say the Law becomes obsolete, yes? So I can say and affirm that the Law is obsolete like the biblical writer states and you can say, as you do, that a “change of the law . . . doesn’t make all of God’s laws obsolete, and WHO would be in conformance/harmony with the biblical text? You? Me?
Romans 3:31 - "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law."
Have you read the entire context of this quote? The entire chapter 3? The entire letter to the Romans?
Romans 3:27: Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay : but by a law of faith.
Do you not get the sense of it? Read verse 28! The law that is established is the law of faith, Freydo! Faith in God, faith in Christ, and their commandments of LOVE!
May I suggest that you re-read the entire letter to the Romans again. Slowly, carefully.
Romans 7:6: But now we have been dischargedfrom the law, having died to that wherein we were held; so that we serve in newness of the spirit, and not in oldness of the letter.
Yes! Re-read for yourself the letter to the Romans. On the other hand, and no doubt way better is it that you can ask our Master and He will tell you Himself of these things. He will guide you. He will direct you.
Galatians 5:18: But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Tell me, Freydo, which are you under: Spirit? or Law? Because if you are under law, then you are not being led by the Spirit. Do you not see that?
1 Timothy 1:8, 9: 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully, 9 as knowing this, that law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and unruly, for the ungodlyand sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers....
May the blessings of Jah be upon you and the Christ shine upon you.
dear freydo...
(post 432) indeed there is a difference in the law and ordainances. the ten are written by God, Gods law and Moses "elaborated" on them to the Israelites as was the "duty" of the priesthood.
Therefore the law of God would not change but in the changing of the priesthood (from levi to judah)the other ordainances would change in that we are under grace and no longer subject to the levitical sacrificial system...
the law and "the prophets" can be summed up in love God and love your neighbour as yourself ...matthew 9:10-13(hosea 6:6-10...6:11)
love michelle
ummm...
I'm thinking that because Jesus Christ put an end to the statutes and ordainences on His cross then this could potentially have implications regarding the blood doctrine which is based NOT ON THE LAW OF GOD but on the statutes of Moses
colossians 2:14
love michelle
"I came to put an end to the law." - right?
What does "under grace" mean? That whatever we choose to do that's wrong, it's ignored because Yahushua didn't do it?
QUOTE - "Listen to this message which I, the Lord, have spoken against you Israelites, against your whole family that I brought out of Egypt. 2 Out of all the families on earth, I have known no one else but you.That is why I am going to punish you for all your sins. 3 Do two people ever walk together without meeting first?" {Amos 3:1-3 GWT} Obviously he never met with other Nations."
It may also be of interest to remember that it is gentiles who are grafted into Israel; not the other way around,
with one law - not two.
Ephesians 2:11-12 (NIV) - "Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth....... remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world."
Freydo:
I assume that when you ask questions you would like to have your questions answered by those whom you ask? Do I assume correctly?
My question to you--here and now--is: Why have you not answered even one of my questions? Just curious. That's all. No biggie.
