Finally finding my way out...

by cognac 46 Replies latest jw friends

  • saywhat29
    saywhat29

    Bane, people are allowed to change their minds. People are allowed to change their minds once they find out that they are wrong. If you found out your spouse was cheating on you, would you go, "Well, I knew she might have cheated on me so its my fault in the end for marrying her." No, you call her a cheating piece of sh*!, leave her (if you can't make it better) and you move on.

    Ah, you might say, "You move on! See I got ya!!!!"

    Sorry no dice. Because if you've accumulated a life with this woman, you may find it hard to move on over night and it may take years to get her out of your life. If you share kids with her, anything she does with them affects you and you have to respect her as their mother even when you can't stand her. If you own a business, that business has to stay open and you have to find a way to run it while separating in some way. When you have friends, you find out whose really your friend and whose really hers. And when your life takes this course, you may find that leaving her really only dissolved your proximity with this woman and that she's still in your life in some way, rather large or small depending on what you have together. Does this anology work for you? have you ever known people who divorced? Ask them how easy it is to get someone you've been with for x years out of their lives and move on. and notice how I left out the emotions of these people as that can take forever!

    Now do you get it, Bane? As long as our families are in this religion, we can't move on overnight or the way you'd want us to. Do you get it now... Please respond to this anology first if possible.

    What is a child whose disfellowshipped suppose to do when her parents become sickly? When no one in the congregation, Jehovahs' true brotherhood 'there to stand in that line in Walgreens for their prescriptions? What is a unbeliving mate suppose to do when they don't want their child to take that plunge and have to suffer from being alienated from other kids or not learning of their faith?

    And another thing, people rarely study 'for years'. You study like one book and go to meetings and you make a decision based off of that. We know your religion better than you do, kid. Stop trying to convince people that when they were studying they were presented with a full story or all the facts because that's not true, nor does their ignorance of da Troof warrant abuse from their families and friends. 'They knew the consequences of leaving' you tell yourself so we brought it upon ourselves.

    Geez, do you believe a women in red pumps on a corner at night asked to be raped? why is your logic so black-and-white? How old are you?

    And I loooved how you ignored everything I said. I answered your question as to why we can't move on, why we are here and you ignored it and went back to the same thing. 'Why can't you people move on'. Comparing a religion to a movie is a rather weak Bane (it's so weak I see whhy you did it because its the only thing that works for your argument). And cursing doesn't make people good or bad it makes them vulgar. Good people who do more in this world than you ever could passing out magazines have mouths like sailors, so step out of the witness view of potty mouths for adults. Bad words feel good sometimes. We curse you out because you said something to piss some of us off; that doesn't mean we're 'bad'. It means we're people, capable of full range of emotions.

    Again, how old are you because your reasoning seems juvenile in these matters so if you're a teenage witness whose offended by the big bad apostates and you want to come online to test what we're really about, kid here's lookin' at you! You've proven the Truth to be THE TRUTH, jehovah luhvs you, and you're free to move on and go highlight your Watchtower now. Come back in 5 years when you get it.

    When you can answer questions posed to you instead of going back to where you started, then you may be a valuable contributer to the conversation...

    And why didn't anyone warn me about him?!?!?! Like seriously you guys, you all wanted to see somebody run their head into a wall talking to him didn't you?

  • saywhat29
    saywhat29

    And cognac, i apologize for hijacking your thread, he just got under my f**king skin. Good for you and it does feel good to get away from it any way you can. Im glad you and your husband are finding peace and happiness!

  • freedomisntfree
    freedomisntfree

    Yay saywhat29!!! and MrsJones!!!!! and To Cognac sorry for my part in this derailng but I thik good points have been made

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I reached a point where I just had to stop going. A successful fade (for me) includes ceasing all JW activity.
    Keep your child safe from indoctrination. Congrats on reaching such a milestone.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Bane you are obviously not an active JW. What exactly was your experience with the JWs? Not that I expect an honest, or any answer at that.

  • BANE
    BANE

    Saywhat, Of course people can change their minds. IF I found my wife had cheated it would be horrible of me to open a website and talk about the incident for 20 years. That would make me pathetic that I couldn´t go on with my life. That is what ALL of you are doing here. I was the product of a divorce. But my parents didn´t open websites talking about each other for the rest of their lives and mock each other. See they were ADULTS. Using your analogy, you SHOULD have dated this woman long enough to know her. In other words, you SHOULD have studied more before getting baptized. It is your own fault. You GAVE a promise to worship God forever with Jehovah´s people. A promise is broken, not changed. My father personally studied for 5 years. Wanna know my age now? Isn´t what I have given you enough? Been baptized 16 years. Been associated longer. I know the truth very well.

    Potty mouths is NOT only about witnesses. The Bible talks about it. Why do you guys constantly try to paint EVERY single Bible teaching as if it came from witnesses? JEhovah doesn´t want us to speak that way. You CAN have a range of emotions. Speech is something hard to control...But typing on the internet? You can pretty much control what you want to say so I don´t buy that argument.

    You run your head into a wall because I won´t fall for your stupid apostate ideas so easily I wonder...

  • beksbks
    beksbks
    IF I found my wife had cheated it would be horrible of me to open a website and talk about the incident for 20 years. That would make me pathetic that I couldn´t go on with my life. That is what ALL of you are doing here. I was the product of a divorce. But my parents didn´t open websites talking about each other for the rest of their lives and mock each other.

    So what does that make you?

  • BANE
    BANE

    Beks, What does that make me? Someone that doesn´t join a website and talk bad about the organization I love. You guys show NO love. Using your example, you would badmouth your ex wife for years. That is not love. What a waste!

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Well, you have joined. Welcome aboard ol apostate! If you do choose to leave though please let the door hit you in the face on your way out. Then fall down the steps too. Perhaps then walk in front of a moving truck.

    Ok, enough time wasted on this loser. I should ignore going forward.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    IF I found my wife had cheated it would be horrible
    of me to open a website and talk about the incident for 20 years.....Bane

    Who the Hell would marry you?..

    Someone in a coma?..

    ......................... ...OUTLAW

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