the latest WT PR

by Dogpatch 25 Replies latest jw friends

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  waiting

  Also to be added to the math: the new 15 minute a month publisher. The hours would seemingly go down per publisher....but the amount of publishers actively reporting will go up. Perhaps dramatically.

  Will be interesting to see next year's figures - as these people will be enter because they're "active proclaimers."

  What they don't say is that nearly 3,500 stop reporting hours forever on average each week. -thirdson

  3,500 out of 5,000 - almost 75% drop out ratio, per week? Is there a way to back up these figures?

  waiting
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  uncle jimbo

  waiting:

  the (simple) formula one uses is:
  new inactives = (new baptisms for service year 2)- ((average from service year 2) - (average from service year 1))

  from the 2001 service year report:
  new inactives = new baptised for 2001 - (ave pub 2001 - ave pub 2000)
  new inactives = (263,431) - (5,881,776 - 5,783,003)
  new inactives = (263,431) - (98,773)
  new inactives = 164,458

  so, we see for 2001 about 3,000 a week leave the organization.

  so 3,000 / 5,000 is about 60%, for 2001 at least.

  actually if you look at the graph jayhawk provided, we can see that this 60% seems to hold for the years since 1995. Since 1995, almost 2.5 million have been baptised, but the number of publishers has increased by only 1 million.

  This means 1.5 million have left since 1995, or 60% the number baptised.

  Anyone care to venture a guess what happened in 1995? (hint: talking 'bout my generation)
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  TheOldHippie

  To Thirdson and Uncle Jimbo:
  Sorry, but you cannot calculate that way, because one need not be baptized in order to be a publisher. Since hundreds of thousands (some 10 years ago it was said 20 % or so were not baptized) enter and leave the ranks of the publishers annually without ever having been among the baptized (for example a person with whom a Bible study is conducted is a publisher in January thru March, then again in October thru December, but not in-between), and a baptized person has not been a publisher for two years but then reports his ministry a couple of months a certain year - then all these moments add up to it being close to impossible to calculate as simple as you do it. I tried once to find the real figures, but after days of curves and figures and mathematical formulas I gave up. To be accurate, I had to start at the 1950s somewhere and the add it up year by year, comparing to comments in articles about DF'ed persons etc., but still I ended up with a very inaccurate figure. Once again sorry, but you are doing it way too simplistic.
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  ozziepost

  More than 15 million attended the 2001 annual commemoration of the death of Christ, the religion's most sacred observance.

  And 15 million met to REJECT Christ's sacrifice by refusing to eat the bread and the wine, in disobedience to Jesus, command to "keep doing this in remembrance of me"!!

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness."
  Anonymous
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  Fredhall

  Hey Randy,

  What is wrong? Is anyone buying your pastor Russell books?
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  RunningMan

  Let's not forget that these worldwide numbers are being propped up by uneducated, desperate people in eastern Europe and Africa.

  Developed, western nations are all in decline. As well, the membership in these countries is aging fast.

  The Society is in big trouble in its core market.