Palm,
thank you so much for explaining my post to MadJW. It seems that I have much to learn from him on how to communicate clearly. I'll say it again, and if he misunderstands, then surely I cannot be held responsible?
MadJW - I recognise you may find it hard to sink to the gutter and converse with "losers" and "Churchoids" whatever they are. I can only presume that in your sweeping generalisation, anyone who leaves the WT is a "loser". So that would also be me. So this "loser" has read your post where you say that you have "proven" your points to all these people who asked you questions, with the Bible. Now, there are a couple of problems:
Number 1 - apart from the ridiculous self-promotion of a ludicrous and frankly unamusing "translation" (technically MAD, tho you might have called it a version, you don't seem to understand the difference, but I expect the distinction is lost on you, since you no doubt refuse to bother your gigantic intellect with such blase details), you haven't actually made any points.
Number 2 - All that you seem to do is insult people, disrespect them, and generally exhibit the same social skills online that no doubt have led you to spend as little time as possible interacting with people face-to-face, and instead build an "on-line presence".
So, let me say it again. It's very simple.
If you are capable of having a civil conversation, one that actually features reasonableness and politeness, and the ability to discuss and debate, then I am willing to discuss your many "proven" points, using the Bible. In case you don't understand, perhaps PalmTree's post can say it clearly. "The ball is in your court." Like I said - start a thread, and lets talk civilly - like you said, very unfairly, you have been looking for someone civil on this forum. While I totally disagree with you - everyone I have ever spoken to on this forum has been civil, even when disagreeing with me.
But let's focus here. You said "I and my friends have been looking for someone civil to talk to", or words to that effect? Well, Mad, here I am. Let's talk. Prove to me all this "scriptural knowledge" of yours. Show me, and incidentally. everyone else on here that you are not a self-promoting, self-glorifying, ego-stroking, arrogant, boorish oaf, who has much to say, little of it of any value. I am sure that actually, you are civil and reasonable, and have some good points to make. So do. Show me that you are not what I sadly suspect you could be - an individual who is not taken seriously by anyone who actually knows him, and so spends his time on the internet, hiding behind a mask of outright hostility and sarcasm. I don't think you are that, but I suspect you could be. I hope not.
So, don't wait for me. I'm waiting for you, MadJW. I don't need to "put my money where my mouth is." I'm waiting for you to hold a mature, reasonable conversation, exhibiting the social skills of an adult who has a proper estimate of himself. Perhaps you, celebrated destroyer of "apostates" that you claim yourself to be, should think on these words?
"2 May a stranger, and not your own mouth, praise you; may a foreigner, and not your own lips, do so."
"and for people to search out their own glory, is it glory?"
It's in a book you may have read.
PP