JW teaching aside, do you belive in spanking children?

by highdose 29 Replies latest jw friends

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  highdose

  Theres recently an article in a UK newspaper about a small boy whose family are at their wits end. It seems he will just run amok, create chaos and danger. Hes been permently excluded from school because of hes terrible behaviour. He has also burnt the family home down because he once didn't get his own way and now if refused his own way will still try to do the same again. He has pushed his grandfather down the stairs because the grandfather told him off, torchured the family dog and hit his teachers.

  His mother is quoted as saying that she has tried everying, including the naughty step, but she won't spank him because that would be teaching him that violence is ok.

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297979/Mother-makes-desperate-plea-help-control-Jekyll-Hyde-horror-year-old-son.html

  Thoughts?
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  mrsjones5

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APj2ArUy6v4

  Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
  I have another puzzle for you
  Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
  If you are wise, you'll listen to me
  
  Who do you blame when your kid is a brat?
  Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat
  Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame
  You know exactly who's to blame
  
  The mother and the father
  
  Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
  If you're not spoiled, then you will go far
  You will live in happiness too
  Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

  I rarely spank. Geez it's been I while since I felt I had to.
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  White Dove

  No. I believe that it is archaic and wrong. That kid needs drugs.
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  Elgiard

  I'm totally cool with spanking, but only if they deserve it. But then I believe that violence is okay, so there's that.
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  jamiebowers

  I helped raise a boy with ADHD, and although he wasn't quite as bad as this boy, it was a real challenge. My husband and I never spanked him, but he was spanked by relatives on his mother's side, and it didn't work.

  The boy in the article needs to be in a residential care facility for round the clock care. He's already proven himself to be homicidal when he set the family home on fire.
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  ZeusRocks

  It would really depend on the circumstances and the age and understanding the child has. I was spanked as a child, but I was also belted by my 1st stepfather from the age of 8, so I know there is a huge difference between the two. Everyone is different and every child is different.

  When I was 5 years old mum and I went to visit her boyfriends mother. I went down for a nap, but of course didn't nap. I saw a box of matches on the table next to the bed I was suppose to be sleeping on. I'd only ever seen matches used in lighting BBQ's at that stage so whenever I saw the match light, the flame always extinguished. So I'm in the bed lighting these matches and throwing them around the room. As you imagine, eventually the room is set on fire. Mum grabbed me out of the room and took me outside and spanked me, while the fire was being put out. From that time on I didn't play with matches. Not because of what had happened, but because if I did I would get a smack. Fire equals pain. Of course she could have sat me down and explained why what I did was bad. But that would not make a 5 year old fully understand the real danger in what they had done. She could have left me in the room so I could feel the pain of the fire and risk scarring me for life, or (as she did) spank me so I will equate fire with pain, without actually having to endure the pain of fire. For me, I think she was very justified in spanking me for that. Children aren't adults, their brains are not fully developed and let's face it, kids learn the consequences of things through experience and whether something brings pleasure or pain.

  When a child equates pain with something, they will usually avoid it in the future. Unfortunately alot of people go to the extreme and do it unnecessarily.
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  blondie

  That kid has a problem that spanking won't solve.

  If spanking worked, then your supervisor could give you a spanking when you screwed up...I see a lawsuit in the future

  If spanking worked, then people in jail would be given periodic beatings

  If spanking worked, then sailors would still be flogged for their mistakes
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  Quillsky

  The opening post as well as the title of this thread (the use of the euphemism "spanking" is a way for supporters of domestic violence to try to make it sound nice or decent or harmless) reveal the agenda of the OP.

  So it's not really possible to engage in reasonable debate.

  Pro-"spankers" will come out of the woodwork (I'm waiting for the classic "I was beaten and I turned out okay" argument) while those of us who don't believe in beating children will just shut up in the face of mindless parents who cannot control their impulses.
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  OnTheWayOut

  My father never believed in it, so despite Mom being a JW, I was never spanked.
  Dad had me baby-sitting a little brother for whole days when I was a teen and I didn't spank, but would lightly smack his hands when he disobeyed.
  He thought of me as an evil ogre and remembered that 'I beat him' because nobody else hit him.

  I never 'beat' him. I wasn't properly prepared as a teen to be a primary care-giver. But if his memory of me is that slanted, I have to be against spanking.
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  gubberningbody

  "You know caning has fallen out of fashion in the United States. But ask anyone who safely walked the immaculate sidewalks of Singapore after winning an international cheerleading competition and they'll tell you one thing; caning works. Now I think it's about time we did a little more of it right here, and to all those naysayers out there who say "that's illegal, you can't strike children on their barebuttocks with razor sharp bamboo sticks", well to them I say; Yes, we, cane! And that's how Sue "C's" it!"