I think it is obvious from a number of the comments in this thread that the level of education, and personal experience, of Islam and its people, for some posters, is somewhat below the level of education that the Nazi murderers of Jews had under Hitler.
3 Things You Should Know About Islam
by onemore 121 Replies latest jw friends
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Quillsky
Could you rephrase that please?
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palmtree67
Wobble:
Does anyone know if the Sharia Courts have to elect to be under the 1996 Arbitration Act, or if they automatically fall under it ?
My reason for asking is that it could be that JW JC's come under the same Act, if so they could be enforced by a higher court, but that must mean their rulings could be appealed in a higher court too. ???????
Sorry, I missed this earlier.
These are good questions. Sharia Law has been allowed in a limited degree in Canada and the UK. The concern is that Sharia Law allows things that are illegal in many countries. So how do we allow Islamics to have honor killings, wife beatings, absurd divorce laws, etc ( Please don't attempt to say this is not part of Sharia Law, we all know it is. ) while having a different set of laws for citizens? How can we penalize Muslims for violent acts, while holding the violent parts of their scriptures in the same high esteem as the peaceful portions?
I think it needs to be made clear to Muslims immigrating to other countries that they are moving to a totally different judicial system - one that does not discriminate against women, that allows women the same sexual rights and freedoms as men.
The West needs to be clear on the nature of Sharia. It is legal tyranny. Islam is more of a social order and a political ideology, than a religion. And this social order is based on Sharia and the Islamic State, which are at odds with the values and standards of Western democracy. It's a recipe for disaster.
It's true, the vast majority of Muslims do not actually act on the violent messages taught to them, but they do hold them dear as Allah's commands. They feel the jihadists are the ones doing Allah's work, while they cannot.
"Islamaphobe" has been thrown around here. A phobia is a disease based on unrealistic fear. For a free people, not fearing Muslim scripture and what is being taught on foreign soil, would be madness.
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Titus
Muslims are funny people. They know to make jokes with Quran and even with their prophet. They are really good people. These radical Muslims you can see on TV are something else...
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palmtree67
The woman in the middle will get half the inheritance that her brother gets, her husband will be allowed to take a second wife and possibly kill her to make it happen, she is not allowed to divorce or have custody of her children, her husband can beat her for even minor infractions of Sharia, providing the stick is no bigger than his thumb.
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Robdar
It seems that a couple of posters have confused Sufism with Islam. The two, although related, are not the same.
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leavingwt
Pat Condell: "Freedom is My Religion"
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Quillsky
The woman in the middle will get half the inheritance that her brother gets, her husband will be allowed to take a second wife and possibly kill her to make it happen, she is not allowed to divorce or have custody of her children, her husband can beat her for even minor infractions of Sharia, providing the stick is no bigger than his thumb.
Oh for god's sake, until recently in the "Christian" world if a man died without a will his oldest son, or all his sons, depending on the region, inherited everything. The daughters were then taken care of by the sons, if the daughters were unmarried, and if they were lucky.
In the "Christian" world men take lovers, mistresses, or divorce their first wife and cast them out while marrying a second. In the opinion of some people, the Islamic way of retaining and looking after the first wife is more moral.
Murder, any murder, is treated as a crime in Islamic jurisdictions.
I know of no Islamic country where the wife may not divorce her husband.
Wife-beating is horrendously common in "Christian" countries.
While we are comparing Christianity and Islam, let's consider Queen Elizabeth II of England. She is married to her second cousin (and third cousin, two different genealogical relationships) and comes from a long line of Christian royalty where 100% male inheritance and wife-killing (Henry the 8th, anyone?) was an accepted Christian norm.
I appreciate your pseudo-feminism, Palmtree, but please choose the correct targets. 1.2 billion ordinary people, including 600 million or so women, trying to live moral and clean lives, should not invoke our anger. Those individual men and individual legal systems, those that abuse or disregard or disempower women, should.
It's not about Islam at all. It's about people. It's about culture. If you attack an entire religion and all its adherents you completely miss that point.
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palmtree67
I know of no Islamic country where the wife may not divorce her husband.
I don't even know what to say to this.
You are woefully misinformed.
