Just thinking about the Churchhill coverup story. Seems theres alot of people around claiming to have seen UFO's etc
Whereas the amount of people claiming to have seen/heard god ....?
What do you think?
by highdose 15 Replies latest jw friends
Just thinking about the Churchhill coverup story. Seems theres alot of people around claiming to have seen UFO's etc
Whereas the amount of people claiming to have seen/heard god ....?
What do you think?
I just finished reading the book,"INVASION WASHINGTON" with photos. UFOs over The Capitol. On a hot summer night fifty years ago,July 1952 was a busy time for sightings of UFOs in the nations Capital.
However, seeing UFOs does not mean Alien contact. The objects are "Unidentified", whatever they are, it is a phenomena yet to be revealed with clarity.
Evidence for the existence of God is still on the table for and against.
Big Bang, singularity, Creator. Take your pick.
6 of 1
half dozen of the other
Why does it have to either or?
We can't grasp existence vs. nothingness. I.E. Who or what caused the Universe and who or what caused the causer of the universe and so on.
If we say God created the universe then we are left with who or how did God come into existence.
If we say God always existed, then we can also say the universe also always existed, and that there never was a time when there was nothing.
I don't know the answers to these questions and mankind has had the best of the best of minds puzzled also.
Finally, those who claim they have had a personal experience, have only just that and each culture has it's own vision contact with it's own perception.
And so it goes round and round. One thing is for certain, we will all die one day.
The origin of the universe was the origin of time itself. So any creator of the universe would logically exist apart from time (and space, as we know it).
"God", should he exist, is not a "person" existing in time (and space) as the JWs teach, but an entity that created time itself and exists outside of the flow of time.
To me, the thought of a God who "always existed" in time is an impossible thought; the thought of a God who transcends time, who created time, and who simply *IS* makes more sense. Maybe this concept can be inferred from the name of God: "I AM".
To answer the question in the OP, I think there's more evidence for the existence of "God", but certainly not the God the JWs proclaim.
Peacedog,
What you say about God is how i have come to think of him. (With the angels if the nephilim are the offspring of angels and women. They must be closely related in order to pass on their angelic (dna)to make a hybrid. Therefore part of the universe. Not what God is otherwise he too would be part of creation.)
We are knowledge seekers by nature.
We are sapient.
We have arrived at the top of the food chain by outsmarting everything else.
We look for patterns. We search for useful information.
The worst and most intolerable thing of all is that which is a mystery.
If we do not have the answer to what we perceive is a mystery we are positively compelled to create an answer--no matter how unlikely.
It gives us a certain kind of peace.
You'll notice in all the above there is no complacency. We don't stay on top if we shrug off our areas of non-knowing.
We, as a species, have a really hard time letting go and coasting. Especially if everything in our world view is constructed as CAUSE=EFFECT.
That is a premise.
It is foundational to our LOGIC.
But, it is easy to forget we are born INTO a chain of cause/effect/cause/effect in a stream of time.
Our thoughts BEGAN. So too, everything we learn BEGAN when we learned it.
It is foreign to intuitive acceptance to allow a non-beginning into our world view.
Why? There has never been one for us.
So, an "automatic mystery" pops up and becomes viral to human thought: THE BEGINNING.
Where or what or how or who----BEGAN the beginning??
It is easy to lose sight of the glitch in our software which has created this artificiality as a FOUNDATION and a PRESUPPOSITION and a hard-wired PREMISE.
GOD is how we solve the pain of the empty equation.
GOD makes it work.
If only that ended the misery!
Logic requres more!
So began the need to "flesh" out that "solution" with personality, purpose, intention, requirements, etc.
All because we automatically require a beginning to everything.
To answer the question in the OP, I think there's more evidence for the existence of "God", but certainly not the God the JWs proclaim.
Peacedog.........you of non-JW background got your slam against the JW religion in on a thread that wasn't remotely asking for such. The JW's are creationists. How is your version of the Christian God on this subject different than the JW's? What about other Christian denominations? Are they wrong too on the subject and you the only one that knows what the hell is correct?
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