Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow (page 2)

Georgiegirl

Well, I have to admit, the Western news media is completely unbiased and neutral and only prints things that are not shocking (rolls eyes). http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100809/wl_sthasia_afp/afghanistanunrestwomenexecution

The deputy head of the religious council for western Afghanistan, Mohammad Kabaabiani, said the execution ran counter to Islamic principles.

Head of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission in western Afghanistan, Abdul Qadir Rahimi, condemned the killing.

"Any such trial is unacceptable and is a violation of human rights. All trials must take place in an authorised court observing every single measure of justice," said Rahimi.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/taleban13.htm

Look, I am NOT in favor of one side over the other. It just irks me when anyone makes a blanket condemnation of an entire group based on the actions of some without having a genuine knowledge of the whole. Not all Muslims kill. Not all whites lynch. Not all Catholics are pedophiles. Not all blacks are athletes. Not all Christians hate Muslims. See what I mean?

Condemn the Taliban and how it has twisted Islam? Absolutely. I have friends from both Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are sickened by what has happened to their countries. But if you want to do something about it, then educate yourselves on how to make a difference. Here's a great place to start: http://www.halftheskymovement.org/

AK - Jeff

Just another reason that I detest ALL religion.

IF Christians could do so, they would gladly parade 'sinners' out to be stoned too. The judgementalism that exists within religion is ultimately the most destructive force this world knows. Move the timeline forward or back and you will find a different religion doing the same evil.

Makes a little puke come up in my mouth.

Jeff

Georgiegirl

@Mary - I'm totally ok with agreeing to disagree (isn't freedom of thought wonderful??!!!).

Frankly, I find danger in most religions and that includes Christianity. However, I also know many Muslims and have studied Islam (not in depth, but as part of a couple of courses at University). The politicalization of the religion is indeed harmful. What disturbs and distresses me is the willingness that people have to utterly and arbitrarily condemn everyone belonging to a certain belief system, and I believe that is wrong. And yes, the Taliban IS very cult-like; it's not just "poor leadership" within Islam.

Georgiegirl

@ ak-Jeff. Thank you for saying exactly what I was trying to say - only much more succintly. :)

Mary

However, I also know many Muslims and have studied Islam (not in depth, but as part of a couple of courses at University). The politicalization of the religion is indeed harmful.

That's me as well. I'll never forget sitting there in class and reading that Islam is run by "theocracy". Guess what song suddenly popped into my head?

Hail the theo-cracy, ever increeeeasing, blah, blah, blah, blah....

I've long been of the opinion that if Muslim countries seperated 'Church and State' (or I guess in their case, Mosque and State), it might start them on the road to Democracy. As it is, both their religion and the countries have the "Rule by God" in place which of course leaves room for the rulers to implement whatsever warped laws they want to, and claim it's from God.

What disturbs and distresses me is the willingness that people have to utterly and arbitrarily condemn everyone belonging to a certain belief system, and I believe that is wrong.

I don't think anyone on here including myself, is arbitrarily condemning every, single Muslim on earth. Muslims are, for the most part, the very ones being executed and tortured by these nutbars. Someone posted a picture the other day of a young Muslim wife in Afganistan who had endured being "treated like a slave" by her fanatical inlaws, so she ran away. She got caught and her sick brother in law held her down while her loving hubby cut off her ears and her nose as punishment. I have nothing but sympathy for that poor girl and I felt sick to my stomach when I saw that picture. I don't care what religion you are---no one deserves that. On the other hand, I think a baseball bat up the side of the head by a woman would be appropriate retribution to her pig of a husband.

Georgiegirl

@Mary - hands you the baseball bat! (although I have to admit - up the side of his head is probably where I'd end up, not where I'd start.)

I couldn't agree more with everything you just said. I agree - no religion should be enmeshed in government - drives me nuts when the moral majority tries to do it in the U.S. (remember the Texas schoolboard controversy???).

Anyway - I didn't mean to jump all over anyone - I think it was an ongoing reaction to a political science class I'm taking where everyone who is non-Christian is Bad and Evil and Islam is a Tool of Satan (according to my fundie and not very bright classmate). Everything and everyone that doesn't fit into this neat little box of Christianity is Wrong. You can only imagine the condemnation of all Muslims that goes on. It's scary and it's hateful and it's making me slightly batty.

designs

The young woman whose nose and ears were cut off by the Taliban is having reconstructive surgery here in LA. The Womens Right's Group that gave her shelter did the right thing. The interview of one of the Groups leaders on radio this morning provided some insight into the long struggle to educate the populace in Afhganistan and the region.

BurnTheShips

What a horrible, terrible perversion.

Here is the recent Time magazine cover:

Here is a Muslim music video to make everyone feel better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uauBH0Q2YZM

Mohammed was kind, and loved women--both widows, recently orphaned women, and young girls.

BTS

Mad Sweeney

What disturbs and distresses me is the willingness that people have to utterly and arbitrarily condemn everyone belonging to a certain belief system, and I believe that is wrong.

I don't think anyone on here including myself, is arbitrarily condemning every, single Muslim on earth. Muslims are, for the most part, the very ones being executed and tortured by these nutbars.

Both of the above statements bear repeating, because it is the former reaction that too often derails legitimate discussion and compels others to defend themselves for a stand they have never actually taken. Fact is, though the crime in the initial post is Muslim on Muslim, the lunatics of the Taliban would gladly put a bullet into the head of every single one of us on JWN if given the free rein and opportunity to do so. Just because they aren't the only evil group on earth doesn't make them any less horrible.

I can't imagine any woman taking up for even the most liberal of Islamic faiths. Are the most liberal Muslims even at the level of the JWs when it comes to women's rights? We all know how the Borg treats women.

I'm glad to see that the posters in this thread are in agreement that the Taliban are heinous. If only we could REALLY commit to doing something about them.

tec

IF Christians could do so, they would gladly parade 'sinners' out to be stoned too.

I am a Christian, Jeff. Never ever would I partake in something that goes so blatantly against what Christ taught. I would hope that I would protest something so detestable being done in Christ's name.

Tammy

Taliban Executes Pregnant Widow

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