Giving the Trinity Doctrine the Coup-De-Grace!

by wannabe 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Essan
    Essan

    I'm agnostic about the Trinity. But even I can see that the OP obviously relies purely on circular reasoning. Their claims would easily be refuted by a Trinitarian. It's not at all the 'coup-de-grace' the author imagines it is but is very weak, logically unsound argument.

    It starts with the unproven premise that Trinitarians are wrong, therefore they can't receive the Spirit, therefore they can't receive the teaching of the Spirit which would reveal the truth about it's nature, therefore Trinitarians 'must' be wrong. Circling right back to the start.

    Circular reasoning. Elementary mistake.

  • Doug Mason
    Doug Mason

    To reason on Christology, climb outside the contents of the Bible and look on it from outside, as you would look at any piece of literature.

    Consider the motives of each writer, their individual contexts, the process taken to decide which writing was considered "orthodox", the external religious politics, the external secular politics, and so on. Search for the reason a particular piece was selected and similarly the reason a piece was rejected.

    Apply these factors when considering the doctrine of the nature of God. In particular, trace the direct influence of various emperors of the eastern Roman Empire in defining orthodoxy, and how the official state church followed those edicts.

    The emperors thought they would bring peace to the riven Christian Church. They did not; all they achieved was stifling of debate of the subject.

    The discussions carried on here are sedate. During the 5th and 6th centuries, Christians murdered, tortured and humiliated other Christians because they had a different Christology. These murderous exploits decimated the eastern church and opened the way for Islam; it also caused an eastern religion to be limited to its European foothold.

    Today we can respect that others have the right to their views.

    Doug

  • wobble
    wobble

    P.Sac rightly points out that the Trinity doctrine developed after what became the Bible Canon was written, but before it was established. (381 AD ?)

    Of course, doctrines that are overtly taught in the Canon are doctrines of men too, the Bible is not inspired, and is not the Word of God.

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