Energy can be changed into matter and vice versa.
I agree, dear NVL (peace to you!), based on my very limited knowledge of physics but what I've read over the past day or so...
A photon has no rest mass but carry elctromagentic energy and radiation.
I agree...
Light is not "merely" a force that moves matter.
Again, I agree. "Merely" is not an appropriate word, here...
That's not what massless means. It has no rest mass. It a particle with energy.
Yes. Apparently, there is some misinformation out there that confuses the two... and/or it was very late when I posted... but I researched further and came across:
"In physics, mass must be differentiated from matter, a more poorly defined idea in the physical sciences."
So, I probably should have stated "matterless." My non-scientific-physics-knowing bad...
The energy is converted into matter. Energy is NOT "nothing"
I agree with that. I only called it "nothing" to make my point, as there are those who apparently believe energy is "nothing", for instance, the scientists in the article who claimed to have made matter "out of nothing." Get my drift?
Then neither did the universe. God came into existence when it did. Sorry, I believe that the light created god...
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be), but you're saying you believe that the universe existed? Or that light existed? And then "god" came forth from the light? Am I correct? Okay. I believe... no, I am now willing to say that I know... God existed... and that light (Christ) came forth from Him... and that the physical universe came throught that light (Christ). Perhaps we need to agree to disagree at this point?
and then he hid in the shadows. That's what the dark spots are in the sky.
Ah, yes, sarcasm... even when someone admits their ignorance of a subject and attempts to have an honest discussion, albeit presenting a differing point of view. So... mature. But please, don't roll your eyes TOO hard at me - I would be inclined to think you're holding on to much more of that WTBTS than you've let on here...
Althought earlier you thought it was the vibrations from his breath.
Earlier... I speculated... and asked posters... as to the possibility, based on the topic of the thread, what I DO know about science (which I professed was very little). Praise JAH, I was not left to my own conclusions...but led into the truth of the matter: light, not sound waves. Done. Answered.
Yes I did. Matter and energy are different forms of the same thing. Photons contain energy (which is not "nothing") that can be turned into matter.
I was referring to the something out of "nothing" claimed by the scientists... in the article? Matter created by colliding photons... pure light/energy... which apparently wasn't something that had occurred before that time... at least, not known by man to have. The article did say that they knew energy could create matter... but not without some particle of matter already present. Apparently, this was different? No matter... so, in their minds... "nothing"? But perhaps you know something the scientists didn't... and I would be more than happy to hear about it, if you care to share...
Sure, if you beleive that a photon is "nothing" and you just called christ a photon, you are calling christ nothing.
It is not I who said a photon is nothing. I only quoted the article. Hence, the quotation marks. My position, however, as I stated above, is that "something" cannot come from "nothing" (which is apparently the view of some), that there was in fact "something" that "everything" came out of... but that "something" was NOT matter that already existed... but the light/energy (or, as the scientists termed it, "nothing")... that created the matter that came into existence. My position is that everything indeed came from something... and that the experiment apparently shows that where scientists previously believed they could NOT produce anything on its own... without utilizing matter... they actually could... and so that "nothing"... WAS something... light/energy.
My position is that that light... is Christ. The True Light that "flashed forth" from God... and as a result of such "flash"... through whom all creation came into existence.
If you do accept that a photon is contains energy
I accept that it contains energy... and understand that it is the basic unit of light, which is the electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength which is sometimes visible to the human eye... but not always...
then the scientists didn't "create" anything
What, you're putting that claim on ME? Seriously?? I mean, I would LOVE to be able to say that I know about this than the physicists (or writers), but I don't think I can. So I will defer to them:
"Out Of Pure Light, Physicists Create Particles Of Matter
ScienceDaily (Sep. 18, 1997) — A team of 20 physicists from four institutions has literally made something from nothing, creating particles of matter from ordinary light for the first time."
It stated "create". But perhaps you know something these physicists/science writer doesn't know?
and converted energy to matter
Hmmmm, yes, I understand what you mean; however, I think the article addressed that: "Scientists have long been able to convert matter to energy; the most spectacular example is a nuclear explosion, where a small amount of matter creates tremendous energy. Now physicists have succeeded in doing the opposite: converting energy in the form of light into matter -- in this experiment, electrons and their anti-matter equivalent, positrons. Converting energy into matter isn't completely new to physicists. When they smash together particles like protons and anti-protons in high-energy accelerator experiments, the initial particles are destroyed and release a fleeting burst of energy. Sometimes this energy burst contains very short-lived packets of light known as "virtual photons" which go on to form new particles." But I don't think this is the part that made the news. I think THAT part is: "In this experiment scientists observedfor the first time the creation of particles from real photons, packets of light that scientists can observe directly in the laboratory." Again, I am not up on all of this, but I don't think you can lay the claim of "creating" particles... on me...
(the reverse happens every day).
Yes, the article indicates that, which is why I assume there wasn't so much hoopla over the reverse...
Of course, I wasn't talking about christ, I was addressing photons and matter.
Yes, I got that. May I ask you, please... why do YOU think people so long ago would write that the first thing "God" said "let there be"... was "light"? Before you anwer, please note that the account wasn't referring to the sun, moon, or stars... or similar things that give our world literal light. I'm just curious as to what you think... But in case you didn't get it, my position is that, contrary to previous believe... and evidently some belief here... pure energy CAN create matter. And Christ is the pure energy... or light... through which all matter... or the physical universe... was created. Peace to you! YOUR servant (as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel and those who go with), and a slave of Christ, SA
