My Lord spoke and told me to post (page 16)

AGuest

Shaking head...

garyneal

Shelby's here!

steve2

My Lord spoke to me and told me he has never spoken to you and that, in your gullibility, you were deceived. Sorry.

designs

OTWO-

Ding Dong, OTWO opens the door, Yes who is it, voice is heard (you have to imagine Bill Cosby's voice at this point) 'This Is The LORD...Be Good!'

OnTheWayOut

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Lozhasleft

Why would god (any god) choose to speak with his chosen ones using a method so closely linked with mental illness?

@ Cultclassic - Just to mention in passing - do you not recall Jesus having the same problem? His family thought he'd gone mad? And if it was good enough for Jesus......?

Loz x

SweetBabyCheezits

Not that anyone is asking but I tend to agree with Thomas Paine. From The Age of Reason....

"Revelation, when applied to religion, means something communicated immediately from God to man.... But admitting, for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be a revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and consequently they are not obliged to believe it.
It is a contradiction in terms and ideas, to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second-hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication- after this, it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner; for it was not a revelation made to me, and I have only his word for it that it was made to him.
When Moses told the children of Israel that he received the two tables of the commandments from the hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him, because they had no other authority for it than his telling them so; and I have no other authority for it than some historian telling me so. The commandments carry no internal evidence of divinity with them; they contain some good moral precepts, such as any man qualified to be a lawgiver, or a legislator, could produce himself, without having recourse to supernatural intervention.*
*It is, however, necessary to except the declaration which says that God visits the sins of the fathers upon the children; it is contrary to every principle of moral justice. When I am told that the Koran was written in Heaven and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes too near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second-hand authority as the former. I did not see the angel myself, and, therefore, I have a right not to believe it."

garyneal

Be Good OTWO

Be Good and Kind to people OTWO

cult classic

Loz - yep I remember. My question still stands.

SweetBabyCheezits

Or as one skeptic put it, "Before we try to explain an extraordinary event as being out of this world, we should make sure we've exhausted all possibilities that are in this world."

WATERSPOUT, I've got some questions for which I'd like to get your input if you'd be kind enough. I'm honestly trying to understand....

Do you accept every claim others might make of hearing the voice of God, so long as they seem like a good, spiritual human?
How do you determine which ones to believe and which ones to write off as being in a state of psychosis?
Should a person not question himself when he hears such a voice?
Would a person who is in a state of psychosis realize it?
What steps have you taken to eliminate the possibility that your mind was the source of the voice?

If nothing else, I'd like to know the answers to these questions in case I ever hear a voice.

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