P.S. Farkel, make it a point to go out and have fun this weekend. Don't get too obtuse.
Dogz
Why DO Horrible Things Happen, Anyway?
by Farkel 35 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Dogpatch
Your story of the girl was a perfect example. Does it matter in the long term scheme of the universe (if there is one) that she's gone, like so many before her? Maybe not. And one day, everyone who ever knew her will also be gone. But it DOES matter right now to her parents and those who loved her and knew her, not to have the comfort and joy of having her around in their lives.
That's the power of Hollywood movies.
Write a script that does that, and you can sell it.
Why?
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Dogpatch
Disclaimer:the following is not to be taken seriously, and is not my real perspective on life. But I'm in the mood for fun!
Okay Fark,
you're next. I will add my comments in RED.
You say,
The insane things that occur to people who just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time is scary and creepy to me. Oh for God's sake, this is a predatory world. Are you still stuck on the justice/god thing?
A little girl is holding her teddy bear and as a coincidence is tragically on that same street when a bunch of gang-bangers decide to stage a gun fight because someone looked cross-eyed at one of their girl friends (you may insert any other bullshit reason here),(how about being a little more creative and inventing a scenario or two?) so they start shooting and the little girl is shot and killed because she is innocently in their cross-fire. (Happens every day a few miles from where I live, you get used to it and develop mental calluses) When captured and arrested, the gang-bangers says they are "sorry" for snuffing out the life of that little girl. Too little, too late and they had to be captured to even say that. (Why would you expect any different? Still stuck on the justice/god thing? Hang out in Compton for a few days, homey.)
what's the point? The point is, Where is God when this stuff happens? (mostly in people's imagination, fool!) Is God so uncaring that he would let his children, he very own creation, die for bullshit reasons? The obvious answer is "yes." What kind of a Father, nay, what kind of a CREATOR is that, I ask? (Obviously not of THIS world) The proof is He lets this stuff happen all the time, yearly, monthly, daily, minute-by-minute; he lets this stuff happen in every corner of the world, in every Country, every province and He has let this stuff happen since humans became humans. (Why did you capitalize Country? This invokes suspicion...)
Oh come on, you got two more days to add to this, bonehead. And where are some good blogs from you?
harsh dogz
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MarcusScriptus
Stick with me, I do have a point and it does apply to this conversation topic. I promise.
I’m of Jewish heritage. I don’t know if many people are not aware of our idiomatic way of answering a question with a question because it is parodied so often that way in films and television.
And it’s true, we do that.
To illustrate, because my family lived in Spain for many centuries our ancestral line embraced the Spanish culture and language for generations (not to be confused with the latest Watchtower type of “generation”—ha, ha, ha). When eventually it was uncovered through an investigation into our family tree where our seed was originally planted, I remember my mother’s reply:
“Here I am, busting my butt to make you a beautiful paella, and all you can say to me is ‘Hi, Mom, it looks like we’re Jews’? I carried you in my body for nine months and almost died giving birth to you … [Insert melodramatic and well-practiced sob that usually plays only on Thanksgiving—and now since, Seder.] … and this is the thanks I get?” She then proceeded to kvetch, minus the Yiddish. Believe me, it’s genetic.
That being said, remember the book of Job? The book is this really long question of Job that he asks of God.
JOB: Why do horrible things happen, anyway?
Who here remembers God’s answer?
Yup, you guessed it. God answers Job’s question with—are you ready?—a question. More than one, actually. He loads the poor guy with them.
“Here I am suffering my head off with already everything that I have been sufering, like with everything I own should be taken away,” says Job to G-d in the footnotes somewhere, “and you should answer my questions with more questions? Oy vey!”
That’s not only the Jewish answer, unfortunately it’s the mainstream Christian answer too.
Except for Fundamentalists and JWs, the expression, “God works in mysterious ways,” is what gets applied here.
Sure it’s all fine and dandy to rack your heads and try to come up with answers. But that’s a very sure earmark that you’re either a theologian who has been given a grant to study the subject, or belong to the “First Church of the True Faith of the Bible-based Bible Believers of Christ in Alabama in the Good Ole U.S.A.,” or you haven’t let go of that JW trait that there has to be an answer or else God can’t exist.
Hey, if Job didn’t get an answer, I wouldn’t expect to get an answer either. And he was talking directly to the Big Guy. What do we got?
Again, I think it is well and good that is discussed, but come on—we should not base our belief in God or our disbelief in a deity on this one point that is not a part of Jewish or Christian revelation. Never has been for thousands of years.
Yup, may seem scary to live without a net of knowing an answer for everything, but there it is.
And no, I don’t want to try and prove my point to someone out there who wants to debate this with me because I’m not saying that my answer is the definitive one. But what I am saying is that our constant desire to have answers for everything, especially tough questions like this, and then making them cornerstones for either belief or disbelief is a JW-taught trait that we need to unlearn. I don’t care what we were taught then, but life is not a set of absolutes.
You still want to debate me on this? Huh, what, you think I was born yesterday or something?
JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES: There are answers to all life’s problems and they are found in the Scriptures. If not, then there is no God.
THE BIBLE: Answers, smansers. What am I? A dictionary? An encyclopedia? I don’t remember that being a part of my job description. Spoiler alert: I’m not a Magic 8 Ball.
GOD: Just because you can’t conceive something in your tiny little mind, that makes me not real?
FSM : Just because you’re a bad cook means I don’t exist either?
ME: Really? You can’t live with the answer that no one knows so you want to discuss this? What? You guys don’t got HBO or something?
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Heaven
SHIT HAPPENS in various world religions
TAOISM: Shit happens.CONFUCIANISM: Confucius say, "Shit happens".
ZEN: (What is the sound of shit happening?)
JESUITISM: If shit happens and when nobody is watching, is it really shit?
ISLAM: Shit happens if it is the will of Allah.
COMMUNISM: Equal shit happens to all people.
CATHOLICISM: Shit happens because you are bad.
PSYCHOANALYSIS: Shit happens because of your toilet training.
SCIENTOLOGY: Shit happens if you're on our shit list.
ZOROASTRIANISM: Bad shit happens, and good shit happens.
UNITARIANISM: Maybe shit happens. Let's have coffee and donuts.
RIGHT-WING PROTESTANTISM: Let this shit happen to someone else.
JUDAISM: Why does shit always happen to US?
REFORM JUDAISM: Got any Kaopectate?
MYSTICISM: What weird shit!
AGNOSTICISM: What is this shit?
ATHEISM: I don't believe this shit!
NIHILISM: Who needs this shit?
AZTEC: Cut out this shit!
QUAKER: Let's not fight over this shit.
FORTEANISM: No shit??
12-STEP: I am powerless to cut the shit.
VOODOO: Hey, that shit looks just like you!
NEWAGE: Visualize shit not happening.
DEISM: Shit just happens.
EXISTENTIALISM: Shit doesn't happen; shit is.
SECULAR HUMANISM: Shit evolves.
CHRISTIAN SCIENCE: Shit is in your mind.
BUDDHISM: Shit happens, but pay no mind.
SHINTOISM: Shit is everywhere.
HINDUISM: This shit has happened before.
WICCA: Mix this shit together and make it happen!
HASIDISM: Shit never happens the same way twice.
THEOSOPHY: You don't know half of the shit that happens.
DIANETICS: Your mother gave you shit before your were born.
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST: No shit on Saturdays.
JEHOVAH's WITNESSES: No shit happens until Armageddon.
MOONIES: Only happy shit really happens.
HOPI: Corn fertilizer happens.
BAHA'I: It's all the same shit.
STOICISM: This shit is good for me.
OBJECTIVISM: Our shit is good for you.
EST: If my shit bothers you, that's your fault.
REAGANISM: Don't move; the shit will trickle down.
FASCISM: Shit makes the trains run on time.
CARGO CULT: A barge will come and take all the shit away.
EMACS: Hold down Control-Meta-Shit.
DISCORDIANISM: Some funny shit happened to me today.
RASTAFARIANISM: Let's smoke this shit.
CHARISMATIC: This is not shit and it doesn't smell bad.
MASONIC: Shit happens, but we can't discuss it during Lodge.
RED CROSS: Shit happens - send money
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thenoblelodge
@ Heaven - I have laughed that hard I think I've cracked a rib. how did you make this s**t up.
When I got to Rastafarianism I totally lost it. Oh man I'm crying.
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cognizant dissident
Randy:
Harsh dogz is kind a funny. This made me chuckle:
Why did you capitalize Country? This invokes suspicion...)
I can't help wondering from your comments, though, if you still consider yourself a believer? Some of your comments lately seem down right atheistic in nature. Just say is all....
Well, either way, I think you're a cool guy.
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Heaven
how did you make this s**t up.
Slow day at the office, the place where a lot of life's sh!t happens.
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cognizant dissident
Did you really make that up Heaven? Because I've read that list before, years ago. I'll have to call Bullshit!
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thenoblelodge
Who cares who made it up, it made me laugh.