Is there anything in print by the WTBS that actually says or strongly suggests only JW's will survive Armageddon and live in the new system? I know someone that has a hard time believing that God will destroy almost 6 billion people and doesn't recall ever being told that only JW's will survivie.
Only JW's will survive Armageddon...
by Bluegill 27 Replies latest jw friends
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Black Sheep
Are they a JW?
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Psychotic Parrot
They never say it outright, they imply it, they cover their assholes exactly because of people like the person you know.
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Essan
- "Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep. 1 p.19
- "Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb. 15 p.12
- "During the final period of the 'ancient world' that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful 'preacher of righteousness.' (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known God's righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" Paragraph 8
- "But Jehovah's servants already belong to the only organization that will survive the end of this wicked system of things."Watchtower 2007 Dec. 15 p.14
- "But if we were to draw away from Jehovah's organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy."Watchtower 1993 Sep. 15 p.22
- "Only Christian witnesses of Jehovah who successfully pass this test will survive and come forth like fire-refined gold for God's use in his precious new order". Watchtower 1985 Mar. 1 p.14
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Psychotic Parrot
Wow, looks like i spoke too soon.
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Black Sheep
Sometimes they will say Jehovah judges hearts, but then go on to describe the parameters he uses to judge, leaving no loopholes for anyone that has heard the message but not joined their sleazy little cult.
Always read the whole paragraph or article.
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Essan
No Parrot, you did say the Society were "assholes" so you didn't speak too soon at all. You were spot on :) (edited to add: you said 'cover their assholes', not that they were assholes, but now that I've said it, I'm not going to retract it - they're assholes LOL)
And they don't often say it explicitly, it's true. They like to keep the belief in the shadows.
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Mary
Here's a few quotes from jwfacts.com that shows that the Borg indeed believe that only JWs will survive:
- "Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep. 1 p.19
"Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb. 15 p.12
"Is it presumptuous of Jehovah's Witnesses to point out that they alone have God's backing? Actually, no more so than when the Israelites in Egypt claimed to have God's backing in spite of the Egyptians' belief, or when the first-century Christians claimed to have God's backing to the exclusion of Jewish religionists." Watchtower 2001 June 1 p.16
"During the final period of the ?ancient world? that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful ?preacher of righteousness.? (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah?s people are making known God?s righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah?s universal organization." Watchtower2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" Paragraph 8The Watchtower 1993 October 1 p.19 went as far as to state that there are billions in line for destruction.
- "There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation."
The billions slaughtered at Armageddon loose any hope of a resurrection, theirs is said to be an everlasting destruction.
- Yes, the destruction of the gross sinners in those cities was eternal, as will be the destruction of the wicked at the end of the present system of things.? Watchtower 1990 April 15 p.20
It is considered that children share in the sins of their parents, so babies will die at Armageddon if their parents are considered unworthy of salvation.
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- "What will happen to young children at Armageddon? The Bible does not directly answer that question, and we are not the judges. However, the Bible does show that God views the young children of true Christians as "holy." (1 Cor. 7:14) It also reveals that in times past when God destroyed the wicked he likewise destroyed their little ones." Reasoning from the Scriptures pp.47-48
"Children are affected by the course of their parents, and parents are warned that their iniquity is visited on their offspring unto the third and fourth generation. (Ex. 20:5, 6) Parents are commanded to instruct their children in God's way, and if in these last days parents refuse to heed the divine instruction and warning they bring destruction upon themselves and their small children at Armageddon. (Deut. 6:6, 7; Eph. 6:4) According to justice God can leave such children dead, for, as Ezekiel showed, all die in their iniquity." Watchtower 1950 Nov 15 p.463 Questions From Readers
"By all the evidences this system of things is hastening to its final confrontation with the God of justice at Armageddon. Parents and children who fail to gain the "mark on their foreheads," that is, an adequate appreciation of God's moral standard, are sure to suffer. Parents will be held accountable for their children, and children will suffer for the failure of their parents." Watchtower 1968 Feb 1 pp.83-84 "Still, Jehovah will not destroy at random. Some humans will be saved. "You went forth for the salvation of your people, to save your anointed one," says Habakkuk 3:13. Yes, Jehovah will save his faithful anointed servants. The destruction of Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion, will then be complete. Today, however, the nations are trying to wipe out pure worship. Soon, Jehovah's servants will be attacked by the forces of Gog of Magog." Watchtower 2000 Feb. 1 p.22
"Let us recognize that Christendom is doomed, along with all the rest of Babylon the Great. She has refused to repent of her religiously immoral or adulterous course of action, her friendship with this world. (Jas. 4:4) She is like the rest of the ungodly world, even after Jehovah's Christian witnesses have plainly declared God's impending judgment to her." Watchtower 1972 Dec. 15 p.753
- "Do not conclude that there are different roads, or ways, that you can follow to gain life in God's new system. There is only one. There was just one ark that survived the Flood, not a number of boats. And there will be only one organization- God's visible organization - that will survive the fast-approaching "great tribulation." It is simply not true that all religions lead to the same goal . . . . You must be part of Jehovah's organization, doing God's will, in order to receive his blessing of everlasting life ?." You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth p.255
- "Why should not blood run deep and far with over two billion [the world population in 1955] dead?.... With the members of this generation that will not pass away before Armageddon breaks out numbering now two billion five hundred million and with only the remnant and a larger group of "other sheep" inside the Greater Noah's "ark" surviving, the death toll of the "war of the great day of God the Almighty" will be appallingly all-surpassing, too many for the Armageddon survivors to bury. Come on, birds and beasts! Have your fill then from the human corpses in retribution for the wanton slaughter of animal and birdlife of which the human race has been guilty!" sr 1955 pp. 340-342 The Universal War of Armageddon Breaks Out
"As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few.... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent, even as we read: "The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." That includes all the governments of the world together with their supporters, the commercial, religious and social institutions.... Armageddon will be the worst thing ever to hit this earth in the history of man." Watchtower 1958 Oct. 15 pp.614-615
"Yes, today, with Armageddon staring us in the face, we must keep in mind the sobering thought that millions, even billions, of lives may shortly come to a swift and decisive end, putting their onetime owners beyond the reach of any expression of love on our part." Watchtower 1965 Apr. 1 p. 212
"What this means to us today is that those now living in this time of judgment and who fail for one reason or another to take a stand for Jehovah, and are therefore slain by him at the battle of Armageddon, will not be retained in his memory for a resurrection. That this group will include the majority of humans now living on earth is shown by Jeremiah 25:33: "The slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung..." Watchtower 1951 July 15 p.446- Here's a charming talk given in 2007 where the speaker describes everyone outside the Organization laying dead on the streets and how we won't feel sorry for them at all
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Psychotic Parrot
It's a that shame most dubs are either asleep or hypnotised at the conventions, because if any of them had actually LISTENED to that talk, they'd have been likely to get up & walk out, never to return to the cult.
That is unless they're a fascist pig like the speaker is, which i guess most dubs are anyway.
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Bluegill
Everyone, Thanks for the info! I appreciate it!
Blacksheep.....Technically yes they are a JW..baptized...but haven't been to meetings, Conventions, Field Service, or the Memorial for about 5 years.