Ignorant Judgemental CO's and DO's

by Scully 58 Replies latest jw friends

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  Mindchild

  What a great thread Scully!!

  I've already told my DO story before but I remember a funny time when I covered a CO from head to toe in mustard! I had volunteered to work in the kitchen at a circuit assembly (before they dropped meal preperations) and I got assigned a really crappy job of opening large cans with a big commercial can opener.

  The damn thing was practically worn out and the circuit was too cheap to buy a new one, so every can was a challenge to get open. I complained twice to the Elder in charge of the kitchen and he complained to someone further on up the ladder until finally it got to Circuit Overseer Sap that someone down in the kitchen was bitching and moaning about their job. He decided to come down and personally tell me that the circuit was just barely getting by and that I should look at my job with thankfullness and that no matter what the circumstances were, I shouldn't be complaining to my brothers about things.

  He then asked me to show him that the can opener didn't work and I put on a 3 gallon can of mustard to open. Well it went all the way around and it didn't open, so I did it again with the same can, and it still didn't open but I had set the can down on the table and popped the lid with the back of a knife and surpisingly it pushed it down but at the same time shot out a huge blob of mustard that caught the CO right in the neck and just covered his suit with mustard.

  I swear everyone in the entire kitchen just stopped what they were doing and the only sound I could hear was my heart beating. He stomped away from there but on the way out told the elder in charge to buy a new can opener!!! hahahaha I won!

  Skipper
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  Scully

  Skip!!!

  LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  Some things just need to have been videotaped. This is one of them.

  Love, Scully

  It is not persecution for an informed person
  to expose a certain religion as being false. - WT 11/15/63

  A religion that teaches lies cannot be true. -WT 12/1/91
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  Quotes

  I remember CO in Toronto area about 15 years ago named "Jack Danley" (but one of my siblings always called him Jack Daniel's :) )

  This guy was quite a character! He should have been the wacky neighbor on a TV sitcom... but I digress...

  He had this habit, when giving talks at our KH during his visit, of raising his voice virtually to the point of it being painful to us, the poor listeners.

  One time the poor MS with the "privlege" of P.A. Amplifier Duty actually tried to do his job and trim down the amp's volume when the CO started shouting, but Jack glared back at the unsuspecting MS and said, his voice growing ever louder, "DON'T ADJUST THE VOLUME, BROTHER, I'LL CONTROL THE LEVEL RIGHT HERE."

  This guy really needed to either (A) review the "modulation" section in the Ministry School or (B) take some Prozac :)

  On Saturday morn he would demonstrate his technique for placing magazines, which included shoving the mags into the hands of the unsuspecting householder's hand. He would demonstrate by walking around the room and shoving the mags, and sure enough some unsuspecting bro/sis would instinctively take them from Jack. He would alway hand them off like this, and then explain to the group to notice how it works, without fail.

  But I got even.... one time I was sitting next to him, and having seen his technique demonstration before, when he tried to hand me the magazines, I just sat there looking at him, but *NOT* raising my hand to take them from him. There waw a long pause as he glared at me waiting, but when he realized I wasn't taking the bait, he moved on to demonstrate with someone else. Kind of let the air out of his "this always works" theory. :)

  BTW, I did this long before I had any doubts, when I was "zealous"... I just didn't like this guy.

  Anyone else know JACK DANLEY a.k.a. JACK DANIEL'S???

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  Beans

  Sorry Brother I never got to meet this great individual,but I do know Jack Daniels weve had some good times together you`ll have to come over to meet him soon!
  Beans ,Merriads and Merriads of brothers!!!!!
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  startingover

  Having been around the "big-wigs" since infancy due to the fact that my father was always prominent in the borg, I have noticed that a lot of the CO's were decent men, but the DO's always seemed a bit pompous to me. My aunt was a DO's wife and I remember her telling about how she was treated after he died and she stayed on in the local congregation. She said the other sisters more or less ran her off, and this happened in more than one cong. Looking back, I can now see that she no doubt carried the same haughty attitude with her and when her husband with the clout was no more, she got treated accordingly.

  Interesting though is the fact that a DO's comments at an assembly, in his public talk, were responsible for opening my mind. I don't remember his name but he was a big black man, and he made some comments regarding the holy spirit's part in the appointment of servants in the congregation. He said, "Do you think that the holy spirit rejects a recommendation when it gets to New York after it has been approved by the local elders and the CO?" I couldn't really believe I heard it from the platform, much less during the public talk. At that point in my transition, I had quit opening the Bible to every scripture mentioned, and I just sat and listened. (During that time period I remember watching the elders thumb mindlessly to Matt 24:14 and thinking how senseless that was) Anyway it really starting my mind spinning. It didn't take too much reasoning on the statements to transfer it to thinking about what part the holy spirit palyed in the process in New York. Now, it feels good to be able to say that a DO's comments at an assembly were responsible for my present feelings.

  SO
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  FreePeace

  Hey Quotes,

  I know Jack Danley. When he "retired" as a CO, he came here to Florida, and served as an elder on my body. What a guy. In fact, I just saw him about 2 weeks ago at a restaurant. He kept looking at me trying to figure out if it was me (I have a beard now). I hadn't seen him in about 3 years. I just ignored him.

  He was not real fond of me. I had to take him to task several times over not being kind and loving to the "brothers."

  I was truly amazed at him. For being a CO for so long, he didn't know squat about "theocratic procedure." And here I was, much younger than him, and an elder for seven years (compared to his many years), and I had to "counsel" him for being overly judgmental and unkind.

  Well, I can tell you that my "counsel" (as kind as it was) went over like a fart in Sunday school with him. He did not like a younger man counseling him at all.

  Another time, we were in an elder's meeting, and he wanted to give a local needs talk in response to a young brother's actions. He wanted to mention this brother's name from the platform, which is a big legal no-no, straight from the GB. I don't remember specifically what this young brother did, but it was not serious in any way. Of course, I objected strongly, but kindly, stating that the Society had directed elders to never mention a person by name, except for DF'ing and DA'ing. So they didn't do it.

  Again, it amazed me that someone of his "training" and position didn't know this basic rule, let alone knowing how cold and judgmental this would be to the person affected.

  I found so much incompetence and lack of loving kindness among the older elders here in Florida that it seemed like I was constantly objecting to something they wanted to do, but was not right.

  I am extremely happy to be gone, and I'm sure that they're happy I'm gone too. Now they can do their stupid stuff without any objections.

  FreePeace
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  FreePeace

  I have to relate another incident concerning Jack "Daniels" Danley. There was a sister who was not very active previously, but started to become more active when her boyfriend started studying.

  Well, apparently she was fooling around, and the elder body appointed 3 elders to deal with it. Even before the judicial committee met with her, good old Jack said to me and another elder in his deep barreling emphatic voice, "She is a wicked woman, and needs to be cleaned out of God's organization." In fact, she wasn't all that.

  He had already done the job of Judge, Jury, and Executioner all by "his self."

  FreePeace
  "The World is my country, and to do good, my religion." --Thomas Paine
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  hungry4life

  I had the CO and DO and their wives over for lunch. I had prepared a nice meal and had several drink choices available. The DO's wife informed me that she only drinks tea and she had brought her own. I quickly heated her some water and brought it to the table only to be told in the snottiest tone "I don't drink microwaved water, boil it on the stove".

  I don't drink coffee or tea but to this day I have wondered does the way you heat the water really make a difference?
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  Scully

  I was also supposed to host the CO and his wife for lunch. I had baked rolls, prepared home-made chicken soup, and arranged some cold-cuts on my best crystal platter. I had cleaned my house to the Nth degree. I was told to expect them for 12 noon, sharp. At 12:10, the CO phoned and advised me that they would not be coming that day, as one of the elders who had been out in service with them had offered to buy lunch for them. Without even apologizing for leaving the cancellation so late, he said he would be at my house the next day instead.

  I was so miffed, that I told him I had plans the next day and couldn't (wouldn't) change them, and suggested that maybe the same elder could take them out for lunch again. When my husband came home from work, he was surprised to be getting soup and cold-cuts for supper. I told him to ask the CO about it, and while he was at it, that I was not going to offer hospitality to any CO or DO ever again. They simply do not appreciate the work that goes into the preparation.

  This same CO eventually stopped having meals at the JWs homes and took to going out to eat for every meal. When serving at my parents' congregation, the CO submitted receipts for all the meals they'd had in restaurants for the entire week, and the congregation was basically forced to reimburse the expenses. My dad was the accounts servant and mentioned that this particular CO was the most expensive one the congregation had ever hosted. He also had a huge motorhome that they towed to each congregation where he and his wife stayed. They parked it in the KH parking lot and hooked into the KH's water and electricity.

  It never ceased to amaze me that although he and his wife were "officially" special pioneers, and according to our tax laws in Canada, were supposed to have 'taken a vow of poverty', how high off the hog he was able to live sponging off the congregations as he went along. We were quite glad when he was reassigned to the London, Ontario circuit.

  Love, Scully

  It is not persecution for an informed person
  to expose a certain religion as being false. - WT 11/15/63

  A religion that teaches lies cannot be true. -WT 12/1/91
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  Kaethra

  Scully....

  I'm curious...did this particular CO's first name begin with G?