An Overlooked Detail of Armageddon

by cameo-d 42 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    Alright, I'm done with this thread....If we can't even agree that Greek was the language of the NT,
    then there isn't really much more I can say.....Leolaia

    Leo this is the first time I`ve seen you Frusterated..

    You`ve got to admit..

    The Bible written in Ancient Italian is Funny!!..

    .......................... ...OUTLAW

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Magic, or rather ILLUSION, goes hand in hand with both religion and politics. Illusion is how all of these things operate and connect. Illusion is how people are controlled and are made subservient.

    I believe "mage" is the root word of Armageddon and I think it carries the meaning of the word as well.

    Armageddon is thought to be the climax or end result of the Apocalypse.

    Apocalypse has been said to be "the lifting of the veil" "revealing what has been hidden". We all know that magicians work with a "hidden hand" and a "veil of distraction".

    The implications of Meggido, as being a battleground where many decisions were made, could also fit the scenerio.

    When everything has been exposed as to how these charades have been played on humanity, people will have a major decision to make. Will they continue to go with the flow because they:

    1. refuse to investigate further when confronted with controversy

    2. accept tradition and the way things are because it is easier

    3.choose to believe the lies because fantasy is comforting

    OR will people:

    1. Take a stand and speak up to expose the lies

    2. choose to severe ties with affiliations that mislead

    3. give up dependency on authorities to "parent them"?

    I think many people find it to be a "safety net" of sorts to allow someone else to tell them what they can and cannot do. It's a part of ritual to have someone else making the plans for you and designing how you will spend your time. One does not have to do any deep thinking or reasoning. This may be why they easily give their power away to others.

    Stepping out to become autonomous would be the road less traveled. There is no "safety net" and the system we are living under is not really designed to support this type of lifestyle.

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    leolaia: The modern Italian word don derives from Latin dominus; whatever sound similarity with Armageddon that led you to that word arises from the sound change that occurred centuries later. But who knows! Maybe Italian don really comes from English dawn or Omaha don "sun" or Japanese don "bowl" or Sanskrit dána "liquid flowing from the temples of the elephant for the rutting" or Sanskrit dan "tooth" or Ossetian don "river" or Old Irish don "place" or Middle Irish donn "dark" or Tamil don "big club" or Georgian don "flat, level" or Old English dón "done" or Old High German donar "thunder" or Old High German donén "vast" or Middle High German don "relaxed" or Korean don "money", etc. etc.

    Leo, you are so cute when you're mad!

    I'll wash and you can hang it out to dry. 'k?

  • Ri
    Ri

    The Kings of the Earth would be the Rulers at the time of the End, in my opinion.....there is one ruler who rules today over many countries but is little known except by those he rules. He is not Satan, although Satan rules him. Can anyone guess?

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Does his name start with a "Z"?

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW
    The Kings of the Earth would be the Rulers at the time of the End, in my opinion.....
    there is one ruler who rules today over many countries but is little known except by those he rules.
    He is not Satan, although Satan rules him. Can anyone guess?..

    If the Bible was originally written in Ancient Italian..

    The Ruler of Earth must be a Mexican..

    http://zorro23.tripod.com/zorro23.jpg

    .......................... ...OUTLAW

  • cameo-d
    cameo-d

    Apparently, the FBI thinks Armageddon is an event.

    There is an assessment analysis entitled Project Megiddo which sometimes asks questions that read like a WT lead-in ..."will life on earth continue for another 1,000 years allowing humans to eliminate disease and solve the mysteries of the aging process so they can live as long as Methuselah?"

  • debator
    debator

    Are we ignoring the fact that Revelation is richly symbolic vision given to Paul in which he writes down what he sees?

    Apparently all the kings of the whole world can gather at this place. Is this even possible if you make it the literal megiddo? we see frogs and the like coming out of the beast mouth etc.

    and then in the ending of this very symbolic passage the consequences clearly happen over the whole earth.

    Rvelation 16:19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20 Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21 From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

    The context of the whole symbolic chapter takes it beyond one small place. And it is not unusual for a place name to be used for an event/people/nation in the same chapter Babylon is used to represent something different than the original actual city/nation.

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    cameo-d, as usual you're right on the money, except I'm not going out on the Old Italian limb with ya. I'm being called "batshit crazy" for suggesting that the book of Revelation has a PERSONAL application.

    1. "To him that conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." ~Rev. 2:7

    2. " He that conquers will by no means be harmed by the second death." ~Rev. 2:11

    3. " To him that conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white pebble, and upon the pebble a new name written which no one knows except the one receiving it." ~Rev. 2:17

    4. "T o him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations, and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, the same as I have received from my Father, and I will give him the morning star." ~Rev. 2:26-28

    5. "He that conquers will thus be arrayed in white outer garments; and I will by no means blot out his name from the book of life, but I will make acknowledgment of his name before my Father and before his angels." ~Rev. 3:5

    6. " ‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God, and that new name of mine." ~Rev. 3:12

    7. "To the one that conquers I will grant to sit down with me on my throne, even as I conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne."

    Yes, what a nutty, batshit crazy idea, that we need to conquer seven churches (CHAKRAS), and that we have an internal battle going on. Even children's cartoons where the devil is talking to someone on one shoulder and an angel on the other are more enlightening than you geniuses. Oh the wisdom that spews forth from these die-hard literalists, especially since not one has been able to figure it out for nearly 2,000 years, always thinking it was about THEIR WORLD in THEIR TIME. Centuries and centuries of fear-mongering, just like the Watchtower. The truth is that it is a TIMELESS prophecy because it has always been about THE INNER, CHRISTIC SELF. Those of you who would rule out the Bible's personal application as a metaphor are merely empowering the book to continue deceiving and inhibiting the spiritual evolution of the Western world.

    Once the dark cabal is removed from power and no longer holds it hostage, we will see the end of pain and suffering on this planet, and eventually even death. The return of Christ is through human consciousness, and just as it tore down the Iron Curtain, it will end the tyranny of the negative elite. That's what 2012 is all about, and that's why Jesus said he was returning at the end of the age.

    By the way, when Revelation 3:12 says "I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out from it anymore..." it is not only suggesting, but flat out STATING the concept of pre-existence and reincarnation." We are IN THE TEMPLE when we are BETWEEN LIVES. The word "anymore" nails it, and it's exactly what Buddha taught, that once we finally get it right, we are liberated from cyclic biological existence, death and suffering.

    ~PS

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    It was too late to edit the previous post, so I'm adding in that the seventh and last verse above is from Rev. 3:21.

    ~PS

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