Unbelieving Mates; YOU MUST read this! (page 2)

elderelite

Nope. The only thing I can control is life is me and how I perceive myself. I will never again concider "them" MY people. no matter what anyone else thinks, says or implies... I am as far from one of them as I can mentally make myself.

LostGeneration

The WT actually follows cult recruiting techniques to a T.

Cult recruiting techniques from this site:

http://www.cultwatch.com/hcwindex.html

Cult leaders don't want you to know that you are being recruited into a cult and so they order their recruiters to dress, talk and act in a way that will put you at ease. One cult has even invented a phrase to describe this, they call it "being relatable".

Ah the old bait and switch. Paragraph 4 tells the recruiters to talk about the UBMs interests instead of "spritual things.

Cultwatch follows up with this:

A cult needs to recruit and operate using deception. Why?
Because if people knew their true practices and beliefs beforehand then they would not join. A cult needs to hide the truth from you until they think you are ready to accept it.

Next plan the right time to attack. Para 5 from the KM mentions that "an unbeliever who has not been receptive to a Bible discussion may listen to scriptural encouragement when he is in the hospital or encounters serious health problems"

Being in the hospital sucks of course, nothing to do but watch TV, and of course you pretty much have to talk to anyone who walks in the room. What better time for a captive audience? Some dude laid up feeling at his worst and the JWs come in to preach to you. Unless you want to act like an ass you cant tell them to leave! Cultwatch says this:

Cults are full of the weak, weird and emotionally unstable.
Not true. Many cult members are very intelligent, attractive and skilled. The reality is that all sorts of people are involved in cults. One of the few common denominators is that they were often recruited at a low point in their life.

startingover

As others have said, it really is amazing when you look at this from the outside. Last meeting I attended, which was only because a kid I knew was giving a talk, it struck me how it's nothing more than a sales meeting.

agonus

Yeah, looking at it from an outsider's POV really is eye-opening, isn't it? The very fact that there are "review questions" on something like this so clearly screams "indoctrination".

agonus

Notice again the use of the loaded-language-labels "ignorant" and "uninformed" to describe those who might have anything negative to say about the Witnesses

agonus

So if I tell an average JW their organization used to teach that, oh, let's say, Jehovah resided on a star named Alcyone in the Pleiades star cluster, and I get either a denial or a deer-in-headlights look, am I still the "ignorant and uninformed" one?

Why is it that we with a not-so-favorable view of the WT are labeled "ignorant and uninformed" when the majority of us know more about the religion's history than the majority of its own adherents?

cameo-d

I think the worst threat is that the thugs show up to undermine your household structure.

If the UBM is the man of the house, he will soon find that his wife has been brow beaten and that she will answer to the elders as her headship---not him! She will be reproved if Jehovah's direct instructions from them do not come before his 'worldly' needs. Forget socializing, extracurricular activities...there won't be any time. He'll be lucky to get dinner. She will be coerced to do more and be at every meeting---with or with out you. She will be expected to work extra hard to show her loyalty to the org.

Basically the home visits are to make you aware that you are going to be powerless and that they will do their best to come between the two of you. They will be the men who "put asunder".

And if the wife is the unbelieving mate, your husband will be shamed for his weakness and lack of authority to "control" you. He will be disciplined for not being "strong enough in Jehovah" to lead his family. If they are domineering enough, they will attempt to emasculate him in every way. He may show his frustration by starting to be bossy in other ways--witholding affection, telling you what you can and cannot wear, do, say, etc.

Visits are never a good thing.

tiffy12

Wow, I'm in suprised at this. My mate (husband) is in for a big suprise with this. I dare those brothers to come to my house or even sisters. Welcome to my home, now let me tell you what a jerk my husband is, he is a liar, and doesn't support me. Then I will throw my big bag of bills I have kept for the last two years on the kitchen table and ask them to explain why he doesn't support me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring it on sistas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ziddina

BetterDaze, I am in AWE of your visual!!! Go, Clint Eastwood!

I liked Agonus' comment:

"Why is it that we with a not-so-favorable view of the WT are labeled "ignorant and uninformed"when the majority of us know more about the religion's history than the majority of its own adherents? ..."

Hah, hah!! DEAD on, Agonus!!

Guess I'd better go on and read the link, long as it's still 'live'...

Zid

wannabefree

the end is just so damn close ... can you feel it?

Unbelieving Mates; YOU MUST read this!

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